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  • Earl Needham
    ... I only have ONE! ... Me too! But since I originally learned CW with a Ten-Tec KR-50 iambic keyer and not a straight key, it doesn t seem too hard for me.
    Message 1 of 17 , Oct 21, 2006
      At 06:49 PM 10/21/2006, Don wrote:

      >Hello Earl and the Group,
      >
      >Congrats on the group. I hope it is very active.
      >
      >I have but 3 Vibroplex bugs and will try to get some pics on later.

      I only have ONE!

      >I'm still learning how to use them.

      Me too! But since I originally learned CW with a Ten-Tec
      KR-50 iambic keyer and not a straight key, it doesn't seem too hard
      for me. About the only thing I really need to do now is get a dipole
      of something up and OPERATE...

      7 3
      Earl


      KD5XB
      Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
    • n2fq
      Hello everyone. Thanks Earl for the invitation. Hope to learn abit from others. My modest collection of bug is now up to nine and started about two years ago.
      Message 2 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
        Hello everyone.
        Thanks Earl for the invitation.
        Hope to learn abit from others.

        My modest collection of bug is now up to nine and started about
        two years ago. Got hooked when I purchase a Collins Collector
        Original, a Vibroplex edition that was offered (still is).

        Consist of the following and picture will be added later.

        Vibroplex 100th with Jeweled bearing.
        Vibroplex 1942 Blue racer
        Vibroplex CCA (Collins number) original
        Vibroplex 1959 Original
        Vibroplex Deluxe Lightning with jeweled bearings. (tnx to N1EA)
        MacKey 1939 Deluxe (marble finish)
        Les Logan Speed X Model 501 (T handle)
        Les Logan Speed X Modle 520

        One Japanese coffin semiauto bug that I can't remember is name.

        Anyhoot, use them all. I rotate on a whim.

        I'm on a prowl for a double lever. Never used one
        but have read about them and how they suppose
        to solve that dit to dah delay, or something like that.

        Now a question:

        To avoid desktop clutter with all those wires, how are the others
        get a handle on this?

        I resorted to putting chassis ground lugs (the spaded ones not the star type) to the keys,
        and use spring loaded test leads to move from one key to another.

        Another solution I was thinking about was to make a circuit board between
        the posts (with oblong holes) and a mini jack mounted on it. Then just
        use a mini plug to change from key to key.

        Looking for other ideas.

        One last point. If you find yourself out here in the Bay area, please feel
        free to contact me and try out any of my keys.
      • K4VD
        I have a bit of a rats nest behind my keys. At the moment I ve got five hooked up in parallel so I can swap around easily. Currently, it is all hook-up wire.
        Message 3 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
          I have a bit of a rats nest behind my keys. At the moment I've got five
          hooked up in parallel so I can swap around easily. Currently, it is all
          hook-up wire.

          To cut the number of wires in half, I'm thinking of getting some two
          conductor cable to run between each key. Still a rats nest but smaller.

          There is that spiral stuff that you can wrap around bundles of cable with
          space for the individual wires to exit along the way. If I can find a few
          feet of that I might try it to clean things up a bit more.

          I have not found any better way to put it all together. I like the spade lug
          idea and will probably add that to the wires.

          73,
          Kev, K4VD
          http://kj4qf.net/

          -----Original Message-----
          From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
          n2fq
          Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:16 PM
          To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [cw_bugs] Greetings

          <snip>

          Now a question:

          To avoid desktop clutter with all those wires, how are the others get a
          handle on this?

          I resorted to putting chassis ground lugs (the spaded ones not the star
          type) to the keys, and use spring loaded test leads to move from one key to
          another.

          Another solution I was thinking about was to make a circuit board between
          the posts (with oblong holes) and a mini jack mounted on it. Then just use a
          mini plug to change from key to key.

          Looking for other ideas.

          One last point. If you find yourself out here in the Bay area, please feel
          free to contact me and try out any of my keys.

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        • Don
          ... I find the best way is the original way. I have (so far) 4 keys I rotate and have wedges on all of them. Just plug in into the resident straight key and
          Message 4 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
            --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "n2fq" <n2fq@...> wrote:
            >
            > Now a question:
            >
            > To avoid desktop clutter with all those wires, how are the others
            > get a handle on this?
            >

            I find the best way is the original way. I have (so far) 4 keys I
            rotate and have wedges on all of them. Just plug in into the resident
            straight key and go.

            I now need a source for more wedges. If anyone knows where to get
            them I would like to know.

            It looks like they may be easy to make, however, by using an old 1/4"
            phone plug insulated casing and some copper strips and an insulator.
            The old fabric covered wire with the strain relief cord may be a
            problem.

            73,

            Don, NN8B
          • Earl Needham
            ... I don t know why, but I keep thinking Vibroplex still sells them. However, a quick search of the web site comes up empty. Sometimes you see them on eBay.
            Message 5 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
              At 03:16 PM 10/22/2006, Don wrote:
              >I now need a source for more wedges. If anyone knows where to get
              >them I would like to know.

              I don't know why, but I keep thinking Vibroplex still sells
              them. However, a quick search of the web site comes up empty.

              Sometimes you see them on eBay.

              7 3
              Earl


              KD5XB
              Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
            • Earl Needham
              ... You mean you keep them all on your desk at the same time? ... Try Anderson PowerPoles, in a color other than red and black. Take a look at
              Message 6 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
                At 02:15 PM 10/22/2006, n2fq wrote:
                ><snip>
                >My modest collection of bug is now up to nine and started about
                >two years ago. Got hooked when I purchase a Collins Collector
                >Original, a Vibroplex edition that was offered (still is).
                >
                ><snip>
                >Now a question:
                >
                >To avoid desktop clutter with all those wires, how are the others
                >get a handle on this?

                You mean you keep them all on your desk at the same time?

                >I resorted to putting chassis ground lugs (the spaded ones not the
                >star type) to the keys,
                >and use spring loaded test leads to move from one key to another.
                >
                >Another solution I was thinking about was to make a circuit board between
                >the posts (with oblong holes) and a mini jack mounted on it. Then just
                >use a mini plug to change from key to key.
                >
                >Looking for other ideas.

                Try Anderson PowerPoles, in a color other than red and
                black. Take a look at
                http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=3578 . You could use a
                regular 1/4" plug with about 6" of cord on it, then the
                PowerPoles. That way, the PowerPoles could be hidden behind your
                rig, if you wanted.

                7 3
                Earl


                KD5XB
                Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
              • David J. Ring, Jr.
                I bought three wedges two years ago. Call Vibroplex and ask for Betsy (tell her David sent you!) - she might have some left. 73 David N1EA ... From: Earl
                Message 7 of 17 , Oct 22, 2006
                  I bought three wedges two years ago.

                  Call Vibroplex and ask for Betsy (tell her David sent you!) - she might have
                  some left.

                  73

                  David N1EA
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Earl Needham
                  To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:43 PM
                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Re: Greetings


                  At 03:16 PM 10/22/2006, Don wrote:
                  >I now need a source for more wedges. If anyone knows where to get
                  >them I would like to know.

                  I don't know why, but I keep thinking Vibroplex still sells
                  them. However, a quick search of the web site comes up empty.

                  Sometimes you see them on eBay.

                  7 3
                  Earl

                  KD5XB
                  Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs






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                • Don
                  ... might have ... Thanks David, I ll give her a try. 73, Don, NN8B
                  Message 8 of 17 , Oct 23, 2006
                    --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "David J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > I bought three wedges two years ago.
                    >
                    > Call Vibroplex and ask for Betsy (tell her David sent you!) - she
                    might have
                    > some left.
                    >
                    > 73
                    >
                    > David N1EA


                    Thanks David, I'll give her a try.

                    73,

                    Don, NN8B
                  • Fernando Quinones
                    ... No, I have a cabinet with glass door and shelving and find that all that wire (a set for each bug) bunched up next to the each key distracts from the
                    Message 9 of 17 , Oct 23, 2006
                      On Oct 22, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Earl Needham wrote:

                      >>
                      >> To avoid desktop clutter with all those wires, how are the others
                      >> get a handle on this?
                      >
                      > You mean you keep them all on your desk at the same time?
                      >

                      No, I have a cabinet with glass door and shelving and find that all
                      that wire (a set for each bug) bunched up next to the
                      each key distracts from the looks.

                      I put a picture of what I'm currently using in the photo section.

                      Don't like to unscrew and screw done a lugs every time I change keys.

                      Just want to get ideas on how others are doing it

                      >
                      > Try Anderson PowerPoles, in a color other than red and
                      > black. Take a look at
                      > http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=3578 . You could use a
                      > regular 1/4" plug with about 6" of cord on it, then the
                      > PowerPoles. That way, the PowerPoles could be hidden behind your
                      > rig, if you wanted.
                      >
                      > 7 3
                      > Earl
                      >
                      >

                      Yes that would work. tnx.



                      Fernando Quinones N2FQ
                    • Earl Needham
                      ... I went to the Socorro hamfest today, and had a great time. While there, I saw a bug set up like this, with a short piece of perfboard and a minijack. I
                      Message 10 of 17 , Oct 28, 2006
                        At 02:15 PM 10/22/2006, n2fq wrote:
                        ><snip>
                        >Another solution I was thinking about was to make a circuit board between
                        >the posts (with oblong holes) and a mini jack mounted on it. Then just
                        >use a mini plug to change from key to key.

                        I went to the Socorro hamfest today, and had a great
                        time. While there, I saw a bug set up like this, with a short piece
                        of perfboard and a minijack. I have to say, once I saw it, this is
                        the SLICKEST way of doing what you want that I can imagine. I
                        suggest you forget PowerPoles and anything else and go with the
                        mini-jack on a PCB.

                        7 3
                        Earl

                        KD5XB
                        Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                      • Kevin der Kinderen, K4VD
                        If someone does this, take a picture and post it. I m having a hard time seeing it in my head. 73, Kev, K4VD http://k4vd.net/ ... From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                        Message 11 of 17 , Oct 28, 2006
                          If someone does this, take a picture and post it. I'm having a hard time
                          seeing it in my head.

                          73,
                          Kev, K4VD
                          http://k4vd.net/

                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                          Earl Needham
                          Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:35 PM
                          To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Greetings

                          I went to the Socorro hamfest today, and had a great time. While
                          there, I saw a bug set up like this, with a short piece of perfboard and a
                          minijack. I have to say, once I saw it, this is the SLICKEST way of doing
                          what you want that I can imagine. I suggest you forget PowerPoles and
                          anything else and go with the mini-jack on a PCB.

                          7 3
                          Earl

                          KD5XB
                          Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs

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                        • Earl Needham
                          ... You can just barely tell it in the top picture at http://www.kt5x.com/gallery.asp?keytype=2 Earl KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                          Message 12 of 17 , Oct 28, 2006
                            \At 07:43 PM 10/28/2006, Kevin der Kinderen, K4VD wrote:
                            >If someone does this, take a picture and post it. I'm having a hard time
                            >seeing it in my head.

                            You can just barely tell it in the top picture at
                            http://www.kt5x.com/gallery.asp?keytype=2

                            Earl

                            KD5XB
                            Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                          • Fernando Quinones
                            Earl thanks for sharing the picture. Yes.. that s the ticket, hi. I have some Radio Shack pc boards and sure will hack at it to make something similar. Oh.. on
                            Message 13 of 17 , Oct 29, 2006
                              Earl thanks for sharing the picture. Yes.. that's the ticket, hi.

                              I have some Radio Shack pc boards and sure will hack at it to make
                              something similar.



                              Oh.. on another note, no problem opening up to other bugs.

                              I'm sure many here have bugs other than Vibroplex.




                              N1EA.. thanks for the diagram, it gave me another idea, no need to
                              drill holes

                              for the post as I was thinking. Now just make a large notch on the
                              edge of the pc board

                              so that I can move to my other bugs which don't have the same
                              distances between posts.

                              Good luck on that double lever..hi.


                              take care all

                              On Oct 28, 2006, at 6:34 PM, Earl Needham wrote:

                              > At 02:15 PM 10/22/2006, n2fq wrote:
                              >> <snip>
                              >> Another solution I was thinking about was to make a circuit board
                              >> between
                              >> the posts (with oblong holes) and a mini jack mounted on it. Then
                              >> just
                              >> use a mini plug to change from key to key.
                              >
                              > I went to the Socorro hamfest today, and had a great
                              > time. While there, I saw a bug set up like this, with a short piece
                              > of perfboard and a minijack. I have to say, once I saw it, this is
                              > the SLICKEST way of doing what you want that I can imagine. I
                              > suggest you forget PowerPoles and anything else and go with the
                              > mini-jack on a PCB.
                              >
                              > 7 3
                              > Earl
                              >
                              > KD5XB
                              > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Yahoo! Groups Links
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >

                              Fernando Quinones N2FQ
                            • Earl Needham
                              ... KT5X has just sent me a couple of better pictures and allowed me to forward them to the group. Earl []
                              Message 14 of 17 , Oct 29, 2006
                                At 06:50 PM 10/28/2006, Earl Needham wrote:
                                >\At 07:43 PM 10/28/2006, Kevin der Kinderen, K4VD wrote:
                                > >If someone does this, take a picture and post it. I'm having a hard time
                                > >seeing it in my head.
                                >
                                >You can just barely tell it in the top picture at
                                ><http://www.kt5x.com/gallery.asp?keytype=2>http://www.kt5x.com/gallery.asp?keytype=2

                                KT5X has just sent me a couple of better pictures and
                                allowed me to forward them to the group.

                                Earl
                                <file://c:\eudora%20pro\attach\jack0001.JPG>
                                []
                                <file://c:\eudora%20pro\attach\jack0001.JPG>
                                jack0001.JPG

                                <file://c:\eudora%20pro\attach\jack0002.JPG>
                                []
                                <file://c:\eudora%20pro\attach\jack0002.JPG>
                                jack0002.JPG


                                KD5XB
                                Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs

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                              • Earl Needham
                                ... Well that didn t work so well -- lemme try again -- Emacs! Emacs! KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs [Non-text portions
                                Message 15 of 17 , Oct 29, 2006
                                  At 11:46 AM 10/29/2006, I wrote:
                                  ><snip>
                                  >KT5X has just sent me a couple of better pictures and
                                  >allowed me to forward them to the group.
                                  >
                                  >Earl

                                  Well that didn't work so well -- lemme try again --
                                  Emacs!


                                  Emacs!




                                  KD5XB
                                  Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs

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                                • Earl Needham
                                  ... Well DUH... No attachments allowed! So these photos are now in the photo section of the group page, under the title Jack for binding posts . E. KD5XB
                                  Message 16 of 17 , Oct 29, 2006
                                    At 11:55 AM 10/29/2006, I wrote:
                                    >At 11:46 AM 10/29/2006, I wrote:
                                    > ><snip>
                                    > >KT5X has just sent me a couple of better pictures and
                                    > >allowed me to forward them to the group.
                                    > >
                                    > >Earl
                                    >
                                    >Well that didn't work so well -- lemme try again --

                                    Well DUH... No attachments allowed! So these photos are now
                                    in the photo section of the group page, under the title "Jack for
                                    binding posts".

                                    E.

                                    KD5XB
                                    Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
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