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  • Tim Soxman
    Earl, If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I ve got a few sitting around. 73 Tim W3ZVT ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 19 , Nov 14, 2006
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      Earl,
      If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
      73
      Tim W3ZVT

      Earl Needham wrote:

      >
      > I won eBay item number 320045595400 seen at
      > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400
      > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400>
      >
      > It might not be pretty, but it'll be fun...
      > Earl
      >
      > KD5XB
      > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
      > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs>
      >
      >



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    • Earl Needham
      ... Thanks, Rich. I also won http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it! ... Hey,
      Message 2 of 19 , Nov 14, 2006
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        At 07:59 AM 11/14/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:

        >Hi, Earl -
        >
        >You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy!

        Thanks, Rich. I also won
        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at
        the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it!

        At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:

        >Earl,
        >If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
        >73
        >Tim W3ZVT

        Hey, that's an interesting idea, Tim --

        I'm quite ignorant here. What do the labels even look
        like? Are they paper, decals, tin, or what? Once I get the bug
        here, I might need to make a decision on either refinishing it or
        else just USE it and let it remain as it is. Hope it gets here quick! :-)

        7 3
        Earl

        KD5XB
        Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
      • Richard Meiss
        Hi, Earl - From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is that a
        Message 3 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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          Hi, Earl -

          From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

          73 de Rich, WB9LPU

          -----Original Message-----
          >From: Earl Needham <needhame1@...>
          >Sent: Nov 14, 2006 11:48 PM
          >To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          >Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] I did it again...
          >
          >At 07:59 AM 11/14/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
          >
          >>Hi, Earl -
          >>
          >>You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy!
          >
          > Thanks, Rich. I also won
          >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at
          >the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it!
          >
          >At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:
          >
          >>Earl,
          >>If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
          >>73
          >>Tim W3ZVT
          >
          > Hey, that's an interesting idea, Tim --
          >
          > I'm quite ignorant here. What do the labels even look
          >like? Are they paper, decals, tin, or what? Once I get the bug
          >here, I might need to make a decision on either refinishing it or
          >else just USE it and let it remain as it is. Hope it gets here quick! :-)
          >
          > 7 3
          > Earl
          >
          >KD5XB
          >Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
          >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
          >
          >
        • Earl Needham
          ... Now that you pointed it out, I can see it. If it turns out that it s apiece of junk, I might take it apart and have the base painted candy apple red down
          Message 4 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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            At 05:40 AM 11/15/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
            >Hi, Earl -
            >
            > From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did
            > some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is
            > that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape
            > just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a
            > long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it
            > deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint
            > outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

            Now that you pointed it out, I can see it.

            If it turns out that it's apiece of junk, I might take it
            apart and have the base painted candy apple red down at the body
            shop... Ooh, what a bad dream THAT was!

            Seriously, I got it cheap enough that I might let our local
            ARC use it down at the clubhouse.

            7 3
            Earl

            KD5XB
            Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
          • k4oso@aol.com
            Earl, Or you could have the base chromed. I bought an old chromed key and it was peeling and rusty. I took it apart and took the base to a local plating
            Message 5 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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              Earl,
              Or you could have the base chromed. I bought an old chromed key and it was
              peeling and rusty. I took it apart and took the base to a local plating shop.
              For $30 they rechromed the base, the damper assembly and the trunion. If you
              would like to see the results, go to www.kevin@... and look in the
              "Gallery" under Radios and Equipment. Its titled, simply K4OSO. There are two
              Blue Racers, my "rechrome" and my gray one.
              73, Milt k4oso
              In a message dated 11/15/2006 8:42:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
              needhame1@... writes:

              > If it turns out that it's apiece of junk, I might take it
              > apart and have the base painted candy apple red down at the body
              > shop... Ooh, what a bad dream THAT was!
              >
              > Seriously, I got it cheap enough that I might let our local
              > ARC use it down at the clubhouse.
              >
              > 7 3
              > Earl
              >
              > KD5XB
              > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              >



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            • k4oso@aol.com
              Earl, Sorry about that. I gave you the email address The link is http://k4vd.net Milt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              Message 6 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                Earl,
                Sorry about that. I gave you the email address
                The link is http://k4vd.net
                Milt


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              • Larry
                Earl, I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also. Another winter restoration project! Does anyone on the list have a scan of the
                Message 7 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                  Earl,

                  I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also.
                  Another winter restoration project!

                  Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                  like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                  done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                  think it would look cool nonetheless.

                  73 de Larry W2LJ
                • Don
                  ... Larry and the group, I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP s site but the photos section won t let me upload it. It must not support .bmp
                  Message 8 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                    --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <Makos327@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Earl,
                    >
                    > I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also.
                    > Another winter restoration project!
                    >
                    > Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                    > like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                    > done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                    > think it would look cool nonetheless.
                    >
                    > 73 de Larry W2LJ
                    >

                    Larry and the group,

                    I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP's site but the
                    photos section won't let me upload it. It must not support .bmp files.

                    I will email it to you and if anyone else wants a copy let me know.

                    73,

                    Don, NN8B
                  • Don
                    ... Larry and the group, I guess I can t find your email address. Send me an email at nn8b.oh@gmail.com and I ll reply with the label .bmp file. 73, Don, NN8B
                    Message 9 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                      --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <Makos327@...> wrote:

                      > Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                      > like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                      > done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                      > think it would look cool nonetheless.
                      >
                      > 73 de Larry W2LJ
                      >


                      Larry and the group,

                      I guess I can't find your email address.
                      Send me an email at nn8b.oh@... and I'll reply with the
                      label .bmp file.

                      73,

                      Don, NN8B
                    • David J. Ring, Jr.
                      A copy of the label for the Lionel J-36 has been uploaded to the photo section at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/photos 73 David N1EA ... the ...
                      Message 10 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                        A copy of the label for the Lionel J-36 has been uploaded to the
                        photo section at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/photos

                        73

                        David N1EA

                        --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <nn8b.oh@...> wrote:
                        > Larry and the group,
                        >
                        > I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP's site but
                        the
                        > photos section won't let me upload it. It must not support .bmp
                        files.
                        >
                        > I will email it to you and if anyone else wants a copy let me know.
                        >
                        > 73,
                        >
                        > Don, NN8B
                        >
                      • Earl Needham
                        My two gadgets -- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400 and
                        Message 11 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                          My two gadgets --
                          <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400
                          and
                          <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362
                          -- arrived today.

                          This is the first time I've actually looked at a straight
                          key since I was a kid in the '60's -- and it is VERY nice looking.

                          The bug is nice, too -- but it's incredibly fast, a lot
                          faster than I can copy! I guess it gives me a reason to practice,
                          hi! I'm headed to bed now, but you might find me on the bands Friday
                          or Saturday.

                          Earl

                          KD5XB
                          Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                        • David J. Ring, Jr.
                          Earl, The Bunnell Triumph key has a bug lip on the left hand side of the base where you can use a cord and wedge to connect your Lionel J-36 bug. Bugs were
                          Message 12 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                            Earl,

                            The Bunnell Triumph key has a "bug lip" on the left hand side of the base
                            where you can use a "cord and wedge" to connect your Lionel J-36 bug.

                            Bugs were designed to be used at the upper ranges of hand key speed - 20 wpm
                            and above.

                            Most people find it very uncomfortable and quite difficult to send with a
                            bug below 20 wpm - but those speeds are easy enough to send with using a
                            straight key.

                            A bug is something that "sounds" best when adjusted for a set speed. The
                            spacings that are optimum for different speeds change, also the weighting
                            (dot adjustment) changes as the dots have to be lighter as speed increases.

                            73

                            David Ring, N1EA

                            =30=

                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Earl Needham

                            This is the first time I've actually looked at a straight
                            key since I was a kid in the '60's -- and it is VERY nice looking.

                            The bug is nice, too -- but it's incredibly fast, a lot
                            faster than I can copy! I guess it gives me a reason to practice,
                            hi! I'm headed to bed now, but you might find me on the bands Friday
                            or Saturday.

                            Earl

                            KD5XB
                            Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                          • Earl Needham
                            ... Yes, that s the main reason I wanted a straight key. I ve never used one much, and I m pretty uncomfortable trying. I originally learned the code on a
                            Message 13 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                              At 11:55 PM 11/15/2006, David J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
                              >The Bunnell Triumph key has a "bug lip" on the left hand side of the base
                              >where you can use a "cord and wedge" to connect your Lionel J-36 bug.

                              Yes, that's the main reason I wanted a straight key. I've
                              never used one much, and I'm pretty uncomfortable trying. I
                              originally learned the code on a Ten-Tec KR-50.

                              >Bugs were designed to be used at the upper ranges of hand key speed - 20 wpm
                              >and above.

                              Yep, but I'm just not there yet. We'll see what happens in
                              the next months.

                              7 3
                              Earl

                              KD5XB
                              Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                            • Earl Needham
                              ... After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the base. I didn t find any
                              Message 14 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                At 05:40 AM 11/15/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
                                >Hi, Earl -
                                >
                                > From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did
                                > some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is
                                > that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape
                                > just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a
                                > long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it
                                > deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint
                                > outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

                                After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that
                                somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the
                                base. I didn't find any overspray on the chrome pieces, but I only
                                spent 5 seconds or so looking.

                                Earl

                                KD5XB
                                Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                              • David J. Ring, Jr.
                                The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                Message 15 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                  The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a
                                  different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                  azroadrunners name.

                                  Sometimes the keys he sells are rare, and the people who collect keys have
                                  been upset at the damage caused by wire brushing and repainting.

                                  But it seems "shiney keys" sell best.

                                  73

                                  David N1EA


                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  From: Earl Needham

                                  After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that
                                  somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the
                                  base. I didn't find any overspray on the chrome pieces, but I only
                                  spent 5 seconds or so looking.

                                  Earl

                                  KD5XB
                                  Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                • Earl Needham
                                  ... Yep, the Bunnell straight key I just got has quite a bit of the Bunnell worn down smooth. Earl KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                    At 09:37 AM 11/16/2006, David J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
                                    >The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a
                                    >different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                    >azroadrunners name.

                                    Yep, the Bunnell straight key I just got has quite a bit of
                                    the "Bunnell" worn down smooth.

                                    Earl

                                    KD5XB
                                    Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                  • Earl Needham
                                    ... Tim, I ll take you up on that -- how shall we do this? Thanks, Earl KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Nov 17, 2006
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                                      At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:
                                      >Earl,
                                      >If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
                                      >73
                                      >Tim W3ZVT

                                      Tim, I'll take you up on that -- how shall we do this?

                                      Thanks,
                                      Earl

                                      KD5XB
                                      Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
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