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  • Richard Meiss
    Hi, Earl - You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy! 73 de Rich, WB9LPU
    Message 1 of 19 , Nov 14, 2006
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      Hi, Earl -

      You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy!

      73 de Rich, WB9LPU
    • Tim Soxman
      Earl, If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I ve got a few sitting around. 73 Tim W3ZVT ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 19 , Nov 14, 2006
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        Earl,
        If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
        73
        Tim W3ZVT

        Earl Needham wrote:

        >
        > I won eBay item number 320045595400 seen at
        > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400
        > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400>
        >
        > It might not be pretty, but it'll be fun...
        > Earl
        >
        > KD5XB
        > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
        > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
        > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs>
        >
        >



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      • Earl Needham
        ... Thanks, Rich. I also won http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it! ... Hey,
        Message 3 of 19 , Nov 14, 2006
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          At 07:59 AM 11/14/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:

          >Hi, Earl -
          >
          >You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy!

          Thanks, Rich. I also won
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at
          the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it!

          At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:

          >Earl,
          >If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
          >73
          >Tim W3ZVT

          Hey, that's an interesting idea, Tim --

          I'm quite ignorant here. What do the labels even look
          like? Are they paper, decals, tin, or what? Once I get the bug
          here, I might need to make a decision on either refinishing it or
          else just USE it and let it remain as it is. Hope it gets here quick! :-)

          7 3
          Earl

          KD5XB
          Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
        • Richard Meiss
          Hi, Earl - From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is that a
          Message 4 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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            Hi, Earl -

            From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

            73 de Rich, WB9LPU

            -----Original Message-----
            >From: Earl Needham <needhame1@...>
            >Sent: Nov 14, 2006 11:48 PM
            >To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
            >Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] I did it again...
            >
            >At 07:59 AM 11/14/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
            >
            >>Hi, Earl -
            >>
            >>You got a nice buy on a nice key. Enjoy!
            >
            > Thanks, Rich. I also won
            >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362 at
            >the same time, but not quite such a good buy on it!
            >
            >At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:
            >
            >>Earl,
            >>If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
            >>73
            >>Tim W3ZVT
            >
            > Hey, that's an interesting idea, Tim --
            >
            > I'm quite ignorant here. What do the labels even look
            >like? Are they paper, decals, tin, or what? Once I get the bug
            >here, I might need to make a decision on either refinishing it or
            >else just USE it and let it remain as it is. Hope it gets here quick! :-)
            >
            > 7 3
            > Earl
            >
            >KD5XB
            >Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
            >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
            >
            >
          • Earl Needham
            ... Now that you pointed it out, I can see it. If it turns out that it s apiece of junk, I might take it apart and have the base painted candy apple red down
            Message 5 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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              At 05:40 AM 11/15/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
              >Hi, Earl -
              >
              > From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did
              > some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is
              > that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape
              > just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a
              > long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it
              > deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint
              > outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

              Now that you pointed it out, I can see it.

              If it turns out that it's apiece of junk, I might take it
              apart and have the base painted candy apple red down at the body
              shop... Ooh, what a bad dream THAT was!

              Seriously, I got it cheap enough that I might let our local
              ARC use it down at the clubhouse.

              7 3
              Earl

              KD5XB
              Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
            • k4oso@aol.com
              Earl, Or you could have the base chromed. I bought an old chromed key and it was peeling and rusty. I took it apart and took the base to a local plating
              Message 6 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                Earl,
                Or you could have the base chromed. I bought an old chromed key and it was
                peeling and rusty. I took it apart and took the base to a local plating shop.
                For $30 they rechromed the base, the damper assembly and the trunion. If you
                would like to see the results, go to www.kevin@... and look in the
                "Gallery" under Radios and Equipment. Its titled, simply K4OSO. There are two
                Blue Racers, my "rechrome" and my gray one.
                73, Milt k4oso
                In a message dated 11/15/2006 8:42:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
                needhame1@... writes:

                > If it turns out that it's apiece of junk, I might take it
                > apart and have the base painted candy apple red down at the body
                > shop... Ooh, what a bad dream THAT was!
                >
                > Seriously, I got it cheap enough that I might let our local
                > ARC use it down at the clubhouse.
                >
                > 7 3
                > Earl
                >
                > KD5XB
                > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                >



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              • k4oso@aol.com
                Earl, Sorry about that. I gave you the email address The link is http://k4vd.net Milt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                Message 7 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                  Earl,
                  Sorry about that. I gave you the email address
                  The link is http://k4vd.net
                  Milt


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                • Larry
                  Earl, I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also. Another winter restoration project! Does anyone on the list have a scan of the
                  Message 8 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                    Earl,

                    I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also.
                    Another winter restoration project!

                    Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                    like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                    done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                    think it would look cool nonetheless.

                    73 de Larry W2LJ
                  • Don
                    ... Larry and the group, I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP s site but the photos section won t let me upload it. It must not support .bmp
                    Message 9 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                      --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <Makos327@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Earl,
                      >
                      > I was lucky enough to pick up a J-36 earlier this year on eBay also.
                      > Another winter restoration project!
                      >
                      > Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                      > like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                      > done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                      > think it would look cool nonetheless.
                      >
                      > 73 de Larry W2LJ
                      >

                      Larry and the group,

                      I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP's site but the
                      photos section won't let me upload it. It must not support .bmp files.

                      I will email it to you and if anyone else wants a copy let me know.

                      73,

                      Don, NN8B
                    • Don
                      ... Larry and the group, I guess I can t find your email address. Send me an email at nn8b.oh@gmail.com and I ll reply with the label .bmp file. 73, Don, NN8B
                      Message 10 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                        --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <Makos327@...> wrote:

                        > Does anyone on the list have a scan of the serial number tag? I'd
                        > like to make up a replica and put it on my restored J-36 once I get it
                        > done. Of course, the serial number area qould be left balnk; but I
                        > think it would look cool nonetheless.
                        >
                        > 73 de Larry W2LJ
                        >


                        Larry and the group,

                        I guess I can't find your email address.
                        Send me an email at nn8b.oh@... and I'll reply with the
                        label .bmp file.

                        73,

                        Don, NN8B
                      • David J. Ring, Jr.
                        A copy of the label for the Lionel J-36 has been uploaded to the photo section at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/photos 73 David N1EA ... the ...
                        Message 11 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                          A copy of the label for the Lionel J-36 has been uploaded to the
                          photo section at http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/photos

                          73

                          David N1EA

                          --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Don" <nn8b.oh@...> wrote:
                          > Larry and the group,
                          >
                          > I have a .bmp file of the Lionel J-36 label from W1TP's site but
                          the
                          > photos section won't let me upload it. It must not support .bmp
                          files.
                          >
                          > I will email it to you and if anyone else wants a copy let me know.
                          >
                          > 73,
                          >
                          > Don, NN8B
                          >
                        • Earl Needham
                          My two gadgets -- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400 and
                          Message 12 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                            My two gadgets --
                            <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045595400
                            and
                            <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320045594362
                            -- arrived today.

                            This is the first time I've actually looked at a straight
                            key since I was a kid in the '60's -- and it is VERY nice looking.

                            The bug is nice, too -- but it's incredibly fast, a lot
                            faster than I can copy! I guess it gives me a reason to practice,
                            hi! I'm headed to bed now, but you might find me on the bands Friday
                            or Saturday.

                            Earl

                            KD5XB
                            Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                          • David J. Ring, Jr.
                            Earl, The Bunnell Triumph key has a bug lip on the left hand side of the base where you can use a cord and wedge to connect your Lionel J-36 bug. Bugs were
                            Message 13 of 19 , Nov 15, 2006
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                              Earl,

                              The Bunnell Triumph key has a "bug lip" on the left hand side of the base
                              where you can use a "cord and wedge" to connect your Lionel J-36 bug.

                              Bugs were designed to be used at the upper ranges of hand key speed - 20 wpm
                              and above.

                              Most people find it very uncomfortable and quite difficult to send with a
                              bug below 20 wpm - but those speeds are easy enough to send with using a
                              straight key.

                              A bug is something that "sounds" best when adjusted for a set speed. The
                              spacings that are optimum for different speeds change, also the weighting
                              (dot adjustment) changes as the dots have to be lighter as speed increases.

                              73

                              David Ring, N1EA

                              =30=

                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: Earl Needham

                              This is the first time I've actually looked at a straight
                              key since I was a kid in the '60's -- and it is VERY nice looking.

                              The bug is nice, too -- but it's incredibly fast, a lot
                              faster than I can copy! I guess it gives me a reason to practice,
                              hi! I'm headed to bed now, but you might find me on the bands Friday
                              or Saturday.

                              Earl

                              KD5XB
                              Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                            • Earl Needham
                              ... Yes, that s the main reason I wanted a straight key. I ve never used one much, and I m pretty uncomfortable trying. I originally learned the code on a
                              Message 14 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                At 11:55 PM 11/15/2006, David J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
                                >The Bunnell Triumph key has a "bug lip" on the left hand side of the base
                                >where you can use a "cord and wedge" to connect your Lionel J-36 bug.

                                Yes, that's the main reason I wanted a straight key. I've
                                never used one much, and I'm pretty uncomfortable trying. I
                                originally learned the code on a Ten-Tec KR-50.

                                >Bugs were designed to be used at the upper ranges of hand key speed - 20 wpm
                                >and above.

                                Yep, but I'm just not there yet. We'll see what happens in
                                the next months.

                                7 3
                                Earl

                                KD5XB
                                Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                              • Earl Needham
                                ... After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the base. I didn t find any
                                Message 15 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                  At 05:40 AM 11/15/2006, Richard Meiss wrote:
                                  >Hi, Earl -
                                  >
                                  > From the pictures on eBay, it looks to me like someone already did
                                  > some re-furbishing, judging from the shiny paint on the base (or is
                                  > that a variant of the J-36?). It looks like it is in good shape
                                  > just to use as is. BTW, the label for that version originally was a
                                  > long strip of plastic (from the early days of plastic, so it
                                  > deteriorated rapidly). The photos of your bug show the faint
                                  > outline of a former label along the left side of the base.

                                  After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that
                                  somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the
                                  base. I didn't find any overspray on the chrome pieces, but I only
                                  spent 5 seconds or so looking.

                                  Earl

                                  KD5XB
                                  Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                • David J. Ring, Jr.
                                  The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                    The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a
                                    different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                    azroadrunners name.

                                    Sometimes the keys he sells are rare, and the people who collect keys have
                                    been upset at the damage caused by wire brushing and repainting.

                                    But it seems "shiney keys" sell best.

                                    73

                                    David N1EA


                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Earl Needham

                                    After receiving the bug and looking it over, it appears that
                                    somebody took it apart and used a can of black spray paint on the
                                    base. I didn't find any overspray on the chrome pieces, but I only
                                    spent 5 seconds or so looking.

                                    Earl

                                    KD5XB
                                    Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                  • Earl Needham
                                    ... Yep, the Bunnell straight key I just got has quite a bit of the Bunnell worn down smooth. Earl KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Nov 16, 2006
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                                      At 09:37 AM 11/16/2006, David J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
                                      >The seller of both the bug and straight key buys keys on eBay under a
                                      >different names, paints and wirebrushes them and then resells them using the
                                      >azroadrunners name.

                                      Yep, the Bunnell straight key I just got has quite a bit of
                                      the "Bunnell" worn down smooth.

                                      Earl

                                      KD5XB
                                      Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                    • Earl Needham
                                      ... Tim, I ll take you up on that -- how shall we do this? Thanks, Earl KD5XB Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                                      Message 18 of 19 , Nov 17, 2006
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                                        At 12:44 PM 11/14/2006, Tim Soxman wrote:
                                        >Earl,
                                        >If you need a replica Lionel tag for it I've got a few sitting around.
                                        >73
                                        >Tim W3ZVT

                                        Tim, I'll take you up on that -- how shall we do this?

                                        Thanks,
                                        Earl

                                        KD5XB
                                        Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
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