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  • David Ring
    And it is cheap at what the buyer paid for it. Notice anything special about it? The contract bugs made by Lionel, Vibroplex and Bunnell were what type? They
    Message 1 of 8 , Jul 21, 2007
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      And it is cheap at what the buyer paid for it.

      Notice anything special about it?

      The contract bugs made by Lionel, Vibroplex and Bunnell were what type?

      They were the Lightning Bug model type.

      What model is this?

      Have you ever seen one before, let alone one with a Bunnell case.

      I'm very surprised that it didn't go for three times the amount.

      If you have one, in similar condition, offer it here.

      73

      David N1EA

      On 7/21/07, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
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    • Earl Needham
      ... I have to admit my ignorance, I was watching that particular bug because it is a real Navy speed key . And even though I actually have a Lionel bug at
      Message 2 of 8 , Jul 21, 2007
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        At 10:19 PM 7/21/2007, David Ring wrote:

        >And it is cheap at what the buyer paid for it.
        >
        >Notice anything special about it?
        >
        >The contract bugs made by Lionel, Vibroplex and Bunnell were what type?
        >
        >They were the Lightning Bug model type.
        >
        >What model is this?
        >
        >Have you ever seen one before, let alone one with a Bunnell case.
        >
        >I'm very surprised that it didn't go for three times the amount.
        >
        >If you have one, in similar condition, offer it here.
        >
        >73
        >
        >David N1EA
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        >On 7/21/07, Earl Needham
        ><<mailto:needhame1%40plateautel.net>needhame1@...> wrote:
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        > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200129180715>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200129180715

        I have to admit my ignorance, I was watching that particular
        bug because it is a "real" "Navy speed key". And even though I
        actually have a Lionel bug at home, it just didn't hit me that the
        Bunnell wasn't the same!

        Now I feel kinda silly, having thought to bid $75 for it...

        Earl

        KD5XB -- Earl Needham
        Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
        ZUT
      • David Ring
        I ve never seen one like this before. There was also a very unusual Bunnell that I fell in love with. The design of the base of the key was stepped or
        Message 3 of 8 , Jul 22, 2007
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          I've never seen one like this before. There was also a very unusual
          Bunnell that I fell in love with. The design of the base of the key
          was stepped or notched or "coined" as I've heard it described.

          It was on eBay about 8 years ago. I bid on it, but I didn't go to the
          "high sum" of $100 only to find out that it was a model that I've
          never seen again, nor has any one of the big key collectors.

          The rest of them have bases like the regular Vibroplex or Lionel.

          The other key that I could have bought a zillion times is the Bunnell
          Gold Bug - which is a terrible sending key. I never bought one
          because of how bad it sent, but now they're worth a small fortune.
          (Probably going for about $1000 or more).

          The McElroy Stream Bug S-600 is often seen to go for $1000 or more.
          That is a good looking and good to send with bug.

          73

          David N1EA


          73

          David N1EA
        • Earl Needham
          ... Is it possible these were prototypes, rather than production items? That might explain the rarity. 7 3 Earl KD5XB -- Earl Needham Clovis, New Mexico
          Message 4 of 8 , Jul 22, 2007
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            At 01:31 AM 7/22/2007, David Ring wrote:
            >I've never seen one like this before. There was also a very unusual
            >Bunnell that I fell in love with. The design of the base of the key
            >was stepped or notched or "coined" as I've heard it described.
            >
            >It was on eBay about 8 years ago. I bid on it, but I didn't go to the
            >"high sum" of $100 only to find out that it was a model that I've
            >never seen again, nor has any one of the big key collectors.
            >
            >The rest of them have bases like the regular Vibroplex or Lionel.

            Is it possible these were prototypes, rather than production
            items? That might explain the rarity.

            7 3
            Earl

            KD5XB -- Earl Needham
            Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
            http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
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          • Donald Kemp
            I believe these were the Bunnell/Martin keys. Check: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/flash.html You will see the model that was just sold near the bottom of the
            Message 5 of 8 , Jul 22, 2007
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              I believe these were the Bunnell/Martin keys.
              Check: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/flash.html
              You will see the model that was just sold near the bottom of the page.
              They were Vibroplex clones. They are hard to find.


              On 7/22/07, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
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              > At 01:31 AM 7/22/2007, David Ring wrote:
              > >I've never seen one like this before. There was also a very unusual
              > >Bunnell that I fell in love with. The design of the base of the key
              > >was stepped or notched or "coined" as I've heard it described.
              > >
              > >It was on eBay about 8 years ago. I bid on it, but I didn't go to the
              > >"high sum" of $100 only to find out that it was a model that I've
              > >never seen again, nor has any one of the big key collectors.
              > >
              > >The rest of them have bases like the regular Vibroplex or Lionel.
              >
              > Is it possible these were prototypes, rather than production
              > items? That might explain the rarity.
              >
              > 7 3
              > Earl
              >
              > KD5XB -- Earl Needham
              > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
              > ZUT

              --
              73,
              Don, NN8B
            • David Ring
              Don your right - but It isn t a just a flash key - this one clearly has a US Navy contract label and is number 223 and the US Navy contract number is given.
              Message 6 of 8 , Jul 22, 2007
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                Don your right - but It isn't a just a flash key - this one clearly
                has a US Navy contract label and is number 223 and the US Navy
                contract number is given. I would say it could be a Bunnell/Martin
                Flash key made under U.S. Navy contract.

                Early Flash keys were made by Martin Research and Manufacturing and
                later by Bunnell.

                The ones with the Martin name plate don't confuse me, but the later
                ones were made by Bunnell.

                This is an odd key for sure. A Bunnell USN Flash key!

                I remember seeing a Presentation Vibroplex on a 2.5 inch wide base
                with minature hardware and everything else was standard - jeweled
                movement, red finger pieces. It was basically a Presentation that was
                a Blue Racer. Oh, it was also a lefty key. Talk about rare.
                Vibroplex did special orders. You could also order a Blue Racer on a
                3.5 inch base - which I thought was rather strange, but after using a
                Blue Racer, I appreciated the zip of the minature movement but the
                base was too small. BINGO - that's how the special order was born.
                Someone else had noticed that also.

                73

                David N1EA



                On 7/22/07, Donald Kemp <nn8b.oh@...> wrote:
                > I believe these were the Bunnell/Martin keys.
                > Check: http://www.zianet.com/sparks/flash.html
                > You will see the model that was just sold near the bottom of the page.
                > They were Vibroplex clones. They are hard to find.
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                > On 7/22/07, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
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                > > At 01:31 AM 7/22/2007, David Ring wrote:
                > > >I've never seen one like this before. There was also a very unusual
                > > >Bunnell that I fell in love with. The design of the base of the key
                > > >was stepped or notched or "coined" as I've heard it described.
                > > >
                > > >It was on eBay about 8 years ago. I bid on it, but I didn't go to the
                > > >"high sum" of $100 only to find out that it was a model that I've
                > > >never seen again, nor has any one of the big key collectors.
                > > >
                > > >The rest of them have bases like the regular Vibroplex or Lionel.
                > >
                > > Is it possible these were prototypes, rather than production
                > > items? That might explain the rarity.
                > >
                > > 7 3
                > > Earl
                > >
                > > KD5XB -- Earl Needham
                > > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                > > ZUT
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                > Don, NN8B
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              • Fernando Quinones
                Also that lovely finish on the base, a look of leather. A beauty! enjoy ... Fernando N2FQ
                Message 7 of 8 , Jul 22, 2007
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                  Also that lovely finish on the base, a look of leather.

                  A beauty!

                  enjoy
                  On Jul 21, 2007, at 9:19 PM, David Ring wrote:

                  > And it is cheap at what the buyer paid for it.
                  >
                  > Notice anything special about it?
                  >
                  > The contract bugs made by Lionel, Vibroplex and Bunnell were what
                  > type?
                  >
                  > They were the Lightning Bug model type.
                  >
                  > What model is this?
                  >
                  > Have you ever seen one before, let alone one with a Bunnell case.
                  >
                  > I'm very surprised that it didn't go for three times the amount.
                  >
                  > If you have one, in similar condition, offer it here.
                  >
                  > 73
                  >
                  > David N1EA
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                  > On 7/21/07, Earl Needham <needhame1@...> wrote:
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                  >> ViewItem&item=200129180715
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                  >> WOW!
                  >> Earl
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                  >> KD5XB -- Earl Needham
                  >> Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                  >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                  >> ZUT
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                  Fernando N2FQ
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