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Re: [cw_bugs] Side Swiper Net - Reminder!

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  • David Ring
    Troy, You and I have worked many times! Yes, old Bob can send with a side swiper faster and better than I can. He still is a fresh mentally as a twenty year
    Message 1 of 6 , May 21, 2007
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      Troy,

      You and I have worked many times!  Yes, old Bob can send with a side swiper faster and better than I can.  He still is a fresh mentally as a twenty year old.  He is worthy of admiration and his book "Electronic Communication" has been in print for about 54 years and is still used at colleges from Harvard to University of Hawaii - I saw his book at the Harvard Co-Op Bookstore back in the 1970s, and started reading it.  I was all set to say "Such intelectual hog wash!" - but instead it read as if the man actually knew what he was talking about.

      The first edition in 1953 (or '52?) even had several pages about spark transmitters, adjustment and use - they were still in use at that time at some coastal maritime stations and on ships!  He also had several pages about arc transmitters - and methods of keying - including methods of eliminating the backwave by frequency shift.

      The sideswiper is a "sideways straight key with the ability to contact in both directions" - it is a "swing key" - it goes left, right, left, right. Good advice for those who use bugs or keyers - or who wish to - is to start each letter with the side with which you'd use on a bug.  This minimizes errors when shifting from 'swiper to bug to keyer.

      We had a new entry today with his sweet cootie fist:  W6EET.

      We had six people on the net today but I was the only person who could copy everyone!  (I was net control station.)

      73

      David N1EA

      On 5/21/07, Troy, W6HV <w6hv@...> wrote:
      Haven't had the pleasure of working you, David, and I haven't used a sideswiper in a very long time. However, I work Bob, W6BNB, frequently and his cootie is great (Bob is 94 this year!). I will have to listen in and see how it goes.
       
      Troy, W6HV
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 8:35 AM
      Subject: [cw_bugs] Side Swiper Net - Reminder!

      Listen, or even better - JOIN IN.

      1700 UTC on 14055 kHz. Listen for CQ SSN.  We usually go up to 21055
      kHz to see if conditions are better up there for the majority.  If so,
      we stay there, if not, we return to 20 meters.  Sometimes stations are
      late, so keep the receiver tuned in.

      F5LAW, W6BNB, N1EA, W9OK and others will probably be there.

      BEGINNERS are encouraged to join in - two or three years ago - about
      one third of the members had NEVER sent on the air with the
      sideswiper.  We were good operators so we tried like the dickens to
      sound good - but we weren't at first - but due to pride we quickly
      humbled ourselves and we all produce good code with that darn key!

      Please - even if you have cold feet - LISTEN.

      73

      DR

      David Ring, N1EA


       
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    • Troy, W6HV
      David, Well, here I am with egg on my face. Better go and look through the log! Yes, I always enjoy reading Bob s articles. His style is very easy to read and
      Message 2 of 6 , May 21, 2007
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        David,
         
         Well, here I am with egg on my face. Better go and look through the log! Yes, I always enjoy reading Bob's articles. His style is very easy to read and understand.   Glad Bill, W6EET, made the net! He does have a very sweet cootie fist. Haven't had a QSO with him in several weeks due to miserable conditions on 40 meters.
         
        73,
        Troy, W6HV
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:22 AM
        Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Side Swiper Net - Reminder!

        Troy,

        You and I have worked many times!  Yes, old Bob can send with a side swiper faster and better than I can.  He still is a fresh mentally as a twenty year old.  He is worthy of admiration and his book "Electronic Communication" has been in print for about 54 years and is still used at colleges from Harvard to University of Hawaii - I saw his book at the Harvard Co-Op Bookstore back in the 1970s, and started reading it.  I was all set to say "Such intelectual hog wash!" - but instead it read as if the man actually knew what he was talking about.

        The first edition in 1953 (or '52?) even had several pages about spark transmitters, adjustment and use - they were still in use at that time at some coastal maritime stations and on ships!  He also had several pages about arc transmitters - and methods of keying - including methods of eliminating the backwave by frequency shift.

        The sideswiper is a "sideways straight key with the ability to contact in both directions" - it is a "swing key" - it goes left, right, left, right. Good advice for those who use bugs or keyers - or who wish to - is to start each letter with the side with which you'd use on a bug.  This minimizes errors when shifting from 'swiper to bug to keyer.

        We had a new entry today with his sweet cootie fist:  W6EET.

        We had six people on the net today but I was the only person who could copy everyone!  (I was net control station.)

        73

        David N1EA
      • David Ring
        It is better to have egg in the fry pan, Troy. No problems - I think our last QSO was very brief. You were chatting with one of the FOC boys - someone I
        Message 3 of 6 , May 21, 2007
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          It is better to have egg in the fry pan, Troy.

          No problems - I think our last QSO was very brief. You were chatting
          with one of the FOC boys - someone I needed on 20 meters for "two
          bands" - so I called you and then talked to him. I had the
          unfortunate experience of being re-sponsored last year when my beat
          was 90 degrees towards the UK - not a good thing when you need a UK
          sponsor!

          One of the best - if not the best - cootie keys is made by using a
          Vibrokeyer and shorting the dash/dot together. Some of changed the
          knob button to a paddle shaped affair but that isn't needed. Also
          taking a bug and wrapping the vibrator with a rubber band and securing
          it to the damper so it doesn't move is what BNB prefers. You have to
          move the dot contact closer, but this method allows you to use cootie
          simply by just readjusting a bug - take off the rubber band, and
          readjust back to the original, and you have a bug again - BNB does
          this during a QSO. It is rather fast.

          73

          DR

          David N1EA


          On 5/22/07, Troy, W6HV <w6hv@...> wrote:
          >
          >
          >
          > David,
          >
          > Well, here I am with egg on my face. Better go and look through the log! Yes, I always enjoy reading Bob's articles. His style is very easy to read and understand. Glad Bill, W6EET, made the net! He does have a very sweet cootie fist. Haven't had a QSO with him in several weeks due to miserable conditions on 40 meters.
          >
          > 73,
          > Troy, W6HV
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: David Ring
          > To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:22 AM
          > Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Side Swiper Net - Reminder!
          >
          > Troy,
          >
          > You and I have worked many times! Yes, old Bob can send with a side swiper faster and better than I can. He still is a fresh mentally as a twenty year old. He is worthy of admiration and his book "Electronic Communication" has been in print for about 54 years and is still used at colleges from Harvard to University of Hawaii - I saw his book at the Harvard Co-Op Bookstore back in the 1970s, and started reading it. I was all set to say "Such intelectual hog wash!" - but instead it read as if the man actually knew what he was talking about.
          >
          > The first edition in 1953 (or '52?) even had several pages about spark transmitters, adjustment and use - they were still in use at that time at some coastal maritime stations and on ships! He also had several pages about arc transmitters - and methods of keying - including methods of eliminating the backwave by frequency shift.
          >
          > The sideswiper is a "sideways straight key with the ability to contact in both directions" - it is a "swing key" - it goes left, right, left, right. Good advice for those who use bugs or keyers - or who wish to - is to start each letter with the side with which you'd use on a bug. This minimizes errors when shifting from 'swiper to bug to keyer.
          >
          > We had a new entry today with his sweet cootie fist: W6EET.
          >
          > We had six people on the net today but I was the only person who could copy everyone! (I was net control station.)
          >
          > 73
          >
          > David N1EA
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