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  • Earl Needham
    but it probably won t stay around too long -- I won http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402 I ve been trying to win a box for about 6
    Message 1 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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      but it probably won't stay around too long -- I won
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402

      I've been trying to win a "box" for about 6 months now and
      finally broke down and got one with a bug included, HI!

      7 3
      Earl

      KD5XB -- Earl Needham
      Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
    • Donald Kemp
      Hi Earl, I was watching that bug. It really looks like a nice one in the pics. Let me know if it s as good as the pics when you get it. Looks like a nice case
      Message 2 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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        Hi Earl,
        I was watching that bug. It really looks like a nice one in the pics.
        Let me know if it's as good as the pics when you get it.
        Looks like a nice case also. Great price also, a good deal I think.

        On 4/13/07, Earl Needham <earl_needham@...> wrote:
        >
        > > but it probably won't stay around too long -- I won
        > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402
        >
        > I've been trying to win a "box" for about 6 months now and
        > finally broke down and got one with a bug included, HI!
        >
        > 7 3
        > Earl
        >
        > KD5XB -- Earl Needham
        > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
        > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
        > --
        73,
        Don, NN8B
        SKCC 36C
        Morse Traditionalist;
        Proud to Preserve the Code
      • David Ring
        A nice looking key. Very good shape for the vintage, in fact very good shape not even considering the age. A note to everyone: Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW
        Message 3 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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          A nice looking key.  Very good shape for the vintage, in fact very good shape not even considering the age.

          A note to everyone:  Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs - they're very well made.

          I remember when I started in radio in 1965, the Champion bug was $12.00 and the box was $8.00, so when I bought a used Champion for $6.00, I couldn't allow myself to buy a new box for more money than the bug - and of course, I regret not doing so.  The box would have cost me more than the used key.

          73

          David Ring
          N1EA

          On 4/13/07, Earl Needham <earl_needham@...> wrote:


          but it probably won't stay around too long -- I won
          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402

          I've been trying to win a "box" for about 6 months now and
          finally broke down and got one with a bug included, HI!

          7 3
          Earl

          KD5XB -- Earl Needham
          Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs


        • k4oso@aol.com
          David, I agree the Vibroplex case really is a beautiful piece of woodworking, and I ve been eyeing it for some time now. However, I can t get past their
          Message 4 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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            David,
            I agree the Vibroplex case really is a beautiful piece of woodworking, and  I've been "eyeing" it for some time now.  However, I can't get past their use of the thin, wire carrying handle.  When contrasted to the fat, leather handle on the original box, which must be really comfortable to carry, the wire handle almost hurts to look at.  I wonder why Vibroplex didn't go with something a bit more ergonomic.  Hope to hear you on the air soon.
            73, Milt k4oso
             
            In a message dated 4/13/2007 9:09:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n1ea@... writes:
            A note to everyone:  Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs - they're very well made.
             




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          • Donald Kemp
            David, You are correct, the carryng cases are very nice. I just got one for my 100th Anniversary Original with a custom nameplate with my SKCC number and the
            Message 5 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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              David,
              You are correct, the carryng cases are very nice. I just got one for
              my 100th Anniversary Original with a custom nameplate with my SKCC
              number and the bugs special serial number.
              It had been on order since before Christmas but they were changing
              suppliers and hadn't received the new ones yet. I just got it last
              week, so they are in stock again and ready for delivery.

              On 4/13/07, David Ring <n1ea@...> wrote:
              > > A nice looking key. Very good shape for the vintage, in fact very good shape not even considering the age.
              >
              > A note to everyone: Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs - they're very well made.
              >
              > I remember when I started in radio in 1965, the Champion bug was $12.00 and the box was $8.00, so when I bought a used Champion for $6.00, I couldn't allow myself to buy a new box for more money than the bug - and of course, I regret not doing so. The box would have cost me more than the used key.
              >
              > 73
              >
              > David Ring
              > N1EA
              >
              >--


              73,
              Don, NN8B
            • David Ring
              Actually, I m glad they used wire. I ve broken two keys with those darned leather straps. I have the case with my Original bug and one day when I was taking
              Message 6 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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                Actually, I'm glad they used wire.  I've broken two keys with those darned leather straps.

                I have the case with my "Original" bug and one day when I was taking it from the cubby hole where we kept out bugs at Tuckerton Radio / WSC in West Creek, NJ, the strap broke, and the bug fell to the floor, the box broke the corner (crushed) and I had to fix the bug for $40 in parts, a uncomfortable bus ride up to Broadway in NYC and having to work for a few days with a straight key sending all those telegrams.

                I think I had to soak my arm in ice for several hours if I remember now.  I hadn't really ever learned how to send on a straight key, so I used the wrist too much and eight hours of sending at 20 wpm was just too much for me.

                I guess I had gotten used to sending with a bug.

                It sure made me humble (at least for a few weeks...).

                73

                DR

                David Ring, N1EA
                =30=

                On 4/14/07, k4oso@... <k4oso@...> wrote:

                David,
                I agree the Vibroplex case really is a beautiful piece of woodworking, and  I've been "eyeing" it for some time now.  However, I can't get past their use of the thin, wire carrying handle.  When contrasted to the fat, leather handle on the original box, which must be really comfortable to carry, the wire handle almost hurts to look at.  I wonder why Vibroplex didn't go with something a bit more ergonomic.  Hope to hear you on the air soon.
                73, Milt k4oso
                 
                In a message dated 4/13/2007 9:09:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n1ea@... writes:
                A note to everyone:  Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs - they're very well made.
                 




                See what's free at AOL.com.


              • David Ring
                If Vibroplex had cases with metal bails, I would have bought one right there - but even the boxes were discontinued at the time - or out of stock. No wonder,
                Message 7 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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                  If Vibroplex had cases with metal bails, I would have bought one right there - but even the boxes were discontinued at the time - or out of stock.   No wonder, as the company was soon (next year) to move to Portland, ME when Stephen Garsoe bought it in the late 70s.
                  73
                  DR


                  On 4/14/07, David Ring <n1ea@...> wrote:
                  Actually, I'm glad they used wire.  I've broken two keys with those darned leather straps.

                • k4oso@aol.com
                  David, Well, I guess anything in poor condition can break, but I was referring more to the ergonomics of the handle, than to its state of repair. 73, Milt In
                  Message 8 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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                    David,
                    Well, I guess anything in poor condition can break, but I was referring more to the ergonomics of the handle, than to its state of repair.
                    73, Milt
                     
                    In a message dated 4/13/2007 12:30:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n1ea@... writes:
                    Actually, I'm glad they used wire.  I've broken two keys with those darned leather straps.

                    I have the case with my "Original" bug and one day when I was taking it from the cubby hole where we kept out bugs at Tuckerton Radio / WSC in West Creek, NJ, the strap broke, and the bug fell to the floor, the box broke the corner (crushed) and I had to fix the bug for $40 in parts, a uncomfortable bus ride up to Broadway in NYC and having to work for a few days with a straight key sending all those telegrams.

                    I think I had to soak my arm in ice for several hours if I remember now.  I hadn't really ever learned how to send on a straight key, so I used the wrist too much and eight hours of sending at 20 wpm was just too much for me.

                    I guess I had gotten used to sending with a bug.

                    It sure made me humble (at least for a few weeks...).

                    73
                     




                    See what's free at AOL.com.
                  • Eric Lawson
                    I don t think I would be carrying a bug too much in a wood case. First, the wood box is too pretty. Second, I don t know if the bug is held in place if the
                    Message 9 of 13 , Apr 13, 2007
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                      I don't think I would be carrying a bug too much in a wood case. First,
                      the wood box is too pretty. Second, I don't know if the bug is held in
                      place if the box tips over. The pretty wood box is at work, so I can't
                      check that right now.

                      I'm an engineer at a cell phone company and the bug at work is an
                      interesting contrast with the very modern cellular telephone & computer
                      stuff I work with each day. Very few people recognize the key or
                      understand the card that says "in case of outage" that rests next to it.


                      When I do carry a bug (field day is about it anymore), I use an old style
                      black "fake leather looking stuff" covered box with the opening on the
                      end. I even spent 15 or so minutes making a key for the thing and paid a
                      cobbler to make a new leather strap for it.


                      Eric
                    • Earl Needham
                      ... It just arrived! I have a little work to do -- the -- ah, I believe it s the TRUNION -- is a little out of whack and needs a bit of adjustment. Actually,
                      Message 10 of 13 , Apr 17, 2007
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                        At 08:30 AM 4/13/2007, Donald Kemp wrote:
                        >Hi Earl,
                        >I was watching that bug. It really looks like a nice one in the pics.
                        >Let me know if it's as good as the pics when you get it.
                        >Looks like a nice case also. Great price also, a good deal I think.
                        >
                        >On 4/13/07, Earl Needham
                        ><<mailto:earl_needham%40yahoo.com>earl_needham@...> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > > but it probably won't stay around too long -- I won
                        > >
                        > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170099549402

                        It just arrived! I have a little work to do -- the -- ah, I
                        believe it's the TRUNION -- is a little out of whack and needs a bit
                        of adjustment. Actually, it works as-is, but the adjustment screw on
                        top is at its limit.

                        And it's REAL fast, faster that I had hoped. Guess I need
                        to practice more.

                        7 3
                        Earl

                        KD5XB -- Earl Needham
                        Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs
                      • ai4re
                        ... good ... they re ... I was playing with the wood case at the Vibroplex booth at the Orlando hamfest a month or so ago. They had a bug in the case. It was
                        Message 11 of 13 , Apr 23, 2007
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                          --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "David Ring" <n1ea@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > A nice looking key. Very good shape for the vintage, in fact very
                          good
                          > shape not even considering the age.
                          >
                          > A note to everyone: Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs -
                          they're
                          > very well made.

                          I was playing with the wood case at the Vibroplex booth at the Orlando
                          hamfest a month or so ago. They had a bug in the case. It was a nice,
                          tight fit. I was trying to be non-chalant about "testing" their box,
                          but was having such a time trying to get the bug out, it caught there
                          attention.

                          The only thing that has kept me from getting the box is that the bug is
                          always in use at the radio, and I can't think of any time I'd need to
                          transport it somewhere.
                        • David Ring
                          I don t know about the new boxes because I haven t used them. I ve used the old wooden boxes with morocian leatherette covering (?) and the plastic
                          Message 12 of 13 , Apr 23, 2007
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                            I don't know about the new boxes because I haven't used them.  I've used the old wooden boxes with "morocian" leatherette covering (?) and the plastic "Pelikan" boxes they sold in the 1980s.

                            The old boxes were used by commerical telegraphers who had personal keys.

                            When you came to work, you'd go to the cubby holes where you'd have your bug, and you'd also receive company mail, and "pink slips" (I've received both!), you'd bring your bug and "stuff" to the position (which was "required" to be cleaned and orderly when you took over.  The position had just a straight key with a bug lip.  You'd take your bug out, take the cord and wedge, and plug the wedge into the bug lip (which was on keys such as the Triumph and the McElroy keys) and go to work.

                            Some of the operators left the bug in the case which muffled (reduced) the sound and protected the key from dirt.

                            I don't know if the new wooden cases can do thie.  The old boxes had a swing open end hinge which allowed the finger pieces to protrude so you could open and use the key.  The wedge would be of sufficient length to be attached to the station key.

                            The Pelikan cases were terrible as they opened from the top - they were only for storage!

                            73

                            David Ring, N1EA


                            On 4/23/07, ai4re <ai4re@...> wrote:

                            --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "David Ring" <n1ea@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > A nice looking key. Very good shape for the vintage, in fact very
                            good
                            > shape not even considering the age.
                            >
                            > A note to everyone: Vibroplex sells beautiful NEW boxes for bugs -
                            they're
                            > very well made.

                            I was playing with the wood case at the Vibroplex booth at the Orlando
                            hamfest a month or so ago. They had a bug in the case. It was a nice,
                            tight fit. I was trying to be non-chalant about "testing" their box,
                            but was having such a time trying to get the bug out, it caught there
                            attention.

                            The only thing that has kept me from getting the box is that the bug is
                            always in use at the radio, and I can't think of any time I'd need to
                            transport it somewhere.


                          • ai4re
                            ... (reduced) the ... had a swing ... could open ... attached to ... were only ... The current wooden boxes must be like the Pelican you ve seen. The don t
                            Message 13 of 13 , Apr 24, 2007
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                              --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "David Ring" <n1ea@...> wrote:
                              > Some of the operators left the bug in the case which muffled
                              (reduced) the
                              > sound and protected the key from dirt.
                              >
                              > I don't know if the new wooden cases can do thie. The old boxes
                              had a swing
                              > open end hinge which allowed the finger pieces to protrude so you
                              could open
                              > and use the key. The wedge would be of sufficient length to be
                              attached to
                              > the station key.
                              >
                              > The Pelikan cases were terrible as they opened from the top - they
                              were only
                              > for storage!

                              The current wooden boxes must be like the Pelican you've seen. The
                              don't open from the end, and you couldn't operate the bug with it
                              still in the case.

                              The current wooden cases can be seen on the Vibroplex web site.
                              <http://www.vibroplex.com/accessories.html>
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