Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug

Expand Messages
  • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
    Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so overriding dots is never done. DR ... Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so
    Message 1 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
    • 0 Attachment

      Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so overriding dots is never done.

      DR

      On Sep 22, 2013 12:45 AM, "Joe V31JP" <v31jp1957@...> wrote:
      Steve,

      I have hunting for a Vibroplex Double lever, but thanks to Pete, W5PEH,
      I acquired a Buzza 100 double lever and
      it is one of my smoothest bugs I have owned.  I can say, I don't think
      about releasing one before the other, just
      like my iambic paddles.  In fact, just lately, I turned off the iambic
      in my keyer and hardly noticed it like using
      Tom's G3HGE, single lever paddle at W5FOC.  The biggest difference I see
      between keyers and bugs is the
      bugs are not self completing! When I go back to a keyer, I sometimes
      hang on a paddle too long at times.
      As for the double lever Buzza, I never thought about it and just went to
      sending.  I am doing a refurbish of
      my Buzza and can hardly wait to get it back on line. With a bug, double
      or single lever, you swing from side
      to side with your wrist, unlike stroking paddles in a double lever
      paddle and never think about squeezing the two.
      Come to think about it, I don't think about it with my paddles, either. ☺

      On 9/21/2013 8:46 PM, Steve wrote:
      > Thanks Troy. I have been  watching the vids and I detect some
      > hesitation at times as if the user is trying to make a conscious
      > effort to release the unused paddle. When paddles are connected they
      > force each other out of the way but this seems to insert more
      > opportunity for error.
      > It reminds me how once I calculated the motions needed to make every
      > letter and number on a dual vs. single lever paddle. The single lever
      > required far less movements with the exception of a few letters such
      > as C and Q.
      > I've been alternating between my 1936A mac and the chrome stream mac
      > here. There are some interesting differences. The 36 is one of the
      > very few bugs that don't copy the Vibroplex design.
      > steve n4lq

      --
      Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
      (Hopkins Village) Belize
      011-501-503-7346 Belize
      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
      or
      5204 Texas Highway 49 W
      Omaha, TX 75571-6474
      U.S.A.
      903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
      903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
      Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
      PG1915841
      Skype: v31joepalooka
      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
      I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
      V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691



      ------------------------------------

      Yahoo! Groups Links

      <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/

      <*> Your email settings:
          Individual Email | Traditional

      <*> To change settings online go to:
          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cw_bugs/join
          (Yahoo! ID required)

      <*> To change settings via email:
          cw_bugs-digest@yahoogroups.com
          cw_bugs-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

      <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
          cw_bugs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

      <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
          http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

    • kj4mpt
      1/2 in and 3/4, respectively. Same bar stock as the small weights. 73 Chris ---In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Tonight, I was
      Message 2 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
      • 0 Attachment

        1/2 in and 3/4, respectively.  Same bar stock as the small weights.  73 Chris 



        ---In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        Tonight, I was looking for a large and a medium Original weights in my
        shop and I guess all of those
        are in Texas! Can someone give me the length of those two? I have 4 or
        5 of the small weights here,
        but none of the other two. Thank you for the time and effort.

        --
        Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
        (Hopkins Village) Belize
        011-501-503-7346 Belize
        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
        or
        5204 Texas Highway 49 W
        Omaha, TX 75571-6474
        U.S.A.
        903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
        903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
        Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
        PG1915841
        Skype: v31joepalooka
        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
        I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
        V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
      • cloud runner
        If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material. A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long
        Message 3 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
        • 0 Attachment
          
          If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
           
          73  fred - kt5x
           
           
        • Joe V31JP
          Haw! You re reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights. Hopefully, this afternoon I will
          Message 4 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
          • 0 Attachment
            Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
            Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
            order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.

            On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
            If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
             
            73  fred - kt5x

            -- 
            Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
            P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
            (Hopkins Village) Belize
            011-501-503-7346 Belize
            011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
            or
            5204 Texas Highway 49 W
            Omaha, TX 75571-6474
            U.S.A.
            903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
            903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
            Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
            PG1915841
            Skype: v31joepalooka
            http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
            I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
            V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
          • William Allen
            Wondering if making the weights out of heavier depleted Uranium would be advantageous?
            Message 5 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
            • 0 Attachment
              Wondering if making the weights out of heavier depleted Uranium would be advantageous?
               


              On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Joe V31JP <v31jp1957@...> wrote:
               

              Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
              Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
              order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



              On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
              If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
               
              73  fred - kt5x

              -- 
              Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
              P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
              (Hopkins Village) Belize
              011-501-503-7346 Belize
              011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
              or
              5204 Texas Highway 49 W
              Omaha, TX 75571-6474
              U.S.A.
              903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
              903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
              Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
              PG1915841
              Skype: v31joepalooka
              http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
              I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
              V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


            • cloud runner
              Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring. Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer
              Message 6 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
              • 0 Attachment
                Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                 
                 
                there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                 
                 
                 

                Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



                On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                 
                73  fred - kt5x

                -- 
                Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                (Hopkins Village) Belize
                011-501-503-7346 Belize
                011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                or
                5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                U.S.A.
                903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                PG1915841
                Skype: v31joepalooka
                http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


              • Joe V31JP
                Yes. I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights. 2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a
                Message 7 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
                • 0 Attachment
                  Yes.  I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights.
                  2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a Vibroplex diameter hole.
                  http://www.2bradioparts.com/page33.html

                  I just got back from town and I was able to get 3/4" drill rod.  So, I might be able to make a rope
                  knurling die wheel, but the brass rod did not make it.  I will probably have to order some 1 foot
                  lengths of various diameters to make bigger and smaller brass items.  I have 3/4" here, but it
                  would be a real waste to make a 5/16", 3/8" or 1/2" thumb screw or nut from it.  A chap was
                  paying for a butane bottle, but it was yellow and I saw MAP/butane on the label!  I asked to if
                  I could see and he said it was much hotter then the normal butane!  One of the clerks said,
                  "Come here, Joe."  Sure enough, they had more, at $27.00BZ/$13.50US a bottle.  I sprung
                  for it and will see if I can braze with it, per Bill, W4PAL. He called it MAPP, but here, it is MAP.

                  On 10/4/2013 12:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                  Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                   
                   
                  there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                   

                  -- 
                  Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                  P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                  (Hopkins Village) Belize
                  011-501-503-7346 Belize
                  011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                  or
                  5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                  Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                  U.S.A.
                  903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                  903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                  Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                  PG1915841
                  Skype: v31joepalooka
                  http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                  I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                  V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                • Steve
                  I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it s the smoothest bug I ve ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a superior design over
                  Message 8 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
                  • 0 Attachment
                    I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it's the smoothest bug I've ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a superior design over vibroplex but maybe the cost became too much for Ted and his 1938 model was just another vibroplex clone.
                    Steve N4LQ

                    On 10/4/2013 2:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                     

                    Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                     
                     
                    there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                     
                     
                     

                    Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                    Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                    order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



                    On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                    If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                     
                    73  fred - kt5x

                    -- 
                    Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                    P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                    (Hopkins Village) Belize
                    011-501-503-7346 Belize
                    011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                    or
                    5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                    Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                    U.S.A.
                    903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                    903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                    Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                    PG1915841
                    Skype: v31joepalooka
                    http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                    I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                    V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


                  • herpie2003
                    Love mine !!! Works great !!! George , N2JNZ SKCC 2836T From: Joe V31JP Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:30 PM To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:
                    Message 9 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
                    • 0 Attachment
                      Love mine !!! Works great !!!
                       
                      George , N2JNZ
                      SKCC 2836T
                       
                      From: Joe V31JP
                      Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:30 PM
                      Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Re: Vibroplex weights, lengths
                       


                      Yes.  I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights.
                      2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a Vibroplex diameter hole.
                      http://www.2bradioparts.com/page33.html

                      I just got back from town and I was able to get 3/4" drill rod.  So, I might be able to make a rope
                      knurling die wheel, but the brass rod did not make it.  I will probably have to order some 1 foot
                      lengths of various diameters to make bigger and smaller brass items.  I have 3/4" here, but it
                      would be a real waste to make a 5/16", 3/8" or 1/2" thumb screw or nut from it.  A chap was
                      paying for a butane bottle, but it was yellow and I saw MAP/butane on the label!  I asked to if
                      I could see and he said it was much hotter then the normal butane!  One of the clerks said,
                      "Come here, Joe."  Sure enough, they had more, at $27.00BZ/$13.50US a bottle.  I sprung
                      for it and will see if I can braze with it, per Bill, W4PAL. He called it MAPP, but here, it is MAP.

                      On 10/4/2013 12:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                      Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                       
                       
                      there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                       

                      -- 
                      Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                      (Hopkins Village) Belize
                      011-501-503-7346 Belize
                      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                      or
                      5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                      Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                      U.S.A.
                      903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                      903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                      Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                      PG1915841
                      Skype: v31joepalooka
                      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                      I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                      V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                    • Joe V31JP
                      I am hoping to acquire a Vibroplex double lever one day. I did acquire an Australian Buzza 100 double lever and love it. I just have to put in some TLC time
                      Message 10 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
                      • 0 Attachment
                        I am hoping to acquire a Vibroplex double lever one day. I did acquire
                        an Australian Buzza 100 double lever and love it. I just have to put in
                        some TLC time
                        with it and I suspect it will be one of my favourites.

                        On 10/4/2013 6:41 PM, Steve wrote:
                        > I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it's the smoothest bug
                        > I've ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a
                        > superior design over vibroplex but maybe the cost became too much for
                        > Ted and his 1938 model was just another vibroplex clone.
                        > Steve N4LQ

                        --
                        Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                        (Hopkins Village) Belize
                        011-501-503-7346 Belize
                        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                        or
                        5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                        Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                        U.S.A.
                        903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                        903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                        Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                        PG1915841
                        Skype: v31joepalooka
                        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                        I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                        V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                      Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.