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  • w6hv
    My new Ollie arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I
    Message 1 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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      My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!


      73,
      Troy, W6HV
    • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
      We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy. I have serial #001, how many are there now. It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug. 73 David N1EA
      Message 2 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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        We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

        73

        David N1EA

        On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


        My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!


        73,
        Troy, W6HV


      • TroyW6HV
        You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked
        Message 3 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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          You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
           
          My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
           
          73,
           
          Troy, W6HV
           
          Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
          Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
           


          We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

          73

          David N1EA

          On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


          My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
           
          73,
          Troy, W6HV


        • Steve
          Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug? Steve N4LQ ... Can both paddles be activated at the same time
          Message 4 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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            Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
            Steve N4LQ

            On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
             

            You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
             
            My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
             
            73,
             
            Troy, W6HV
             
            Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
            Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
             


            We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

            73

            David N1EA

            On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


            My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
             
            73,
            Troy, W6HV



          • TroyW6HV
            They are independent. However, it wont send like an iambic paddle. All you would get is the “dash”. So it’s strictly a bug only with dual levers. Troy,
            Message 5 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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              They are independent. However, it wont send like an iambic paddle. All you would get is the “dash”. So it’s strictly a bug only with dual levers.
               
              Troy, W6HV
               
              From: Steve
              Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:14 PM
              Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
               


              Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
              Steve N4LQ

              On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
               
              You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
               
              My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
               
              73,
               
              Troy, W6HV
               
              Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
              Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
               


              We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

              73

              David N1EA

              On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


              My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
               
              73,
              Troy, W6HV



            • Steve
              So are you saying that you must first release one lever before hitting the other? That sound like an iambic paddle with it s contacts wired together if I m
              Message 6 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                So are you saying that you must first release one lever before hitting the other? That sound like an iambic paddle with it's contacts wired together if I'm understanding you.
                On the surface it sounds like more work or am I missing something?
                I do like the idea of having separate pivot points for dot and dash levers but seems like they should lock each other out so you can't push both at the same time.

                Steve N4LQ

                On 9/21/2013 10:22 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                 

                They are independent. However, it wont send like an iambic paddle. All you would get is the “dash”. So it’s strictly a bug only with dual levers.
                 
                Troy, W6HV
                 
                From: Steve
                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:14 PM
                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                 


                Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
                Steve N4LQ

                On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                 
                You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
                 
                My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
                 
                73,
                 
                Troy, W6HV
                 
                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                 


                We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

                73

                David N1EA

                On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


                My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
                 
                73,
                Troy, W6HV




            • TroyW6HV
              Yes, if you start a string of dots and then (holding that lever) hit the dash lever, you will, in effect, insert a dash similar to an iambic. But hitting a few
              Message 7 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                Yes, if you start a string of dots and then (holding that lever) hit the dash lever, you will, in effect, insert a dash similar to an iambic. But hitting a few dashes and the hitting the dots will not necessarily insert the dots—depends on your timing. Not exactly like the cootie key setup.
                 
                It’s a lot easier than I describe. Watch the video on the website: http://www.twradio.co.uk/TWOlympic.html
                 
                Troy, W6HV
                 
                From: Steve
                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:27 PM
                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                 


                So are you saying that you must first release one lever before hitting the other? That sound like an iambic paddle with it's contacts wired together if I'm understanding you.
                On the surface it sounds like more work or am I missing something?
                I do like the idea of having separate pivot points for dot and dash levers but seems like they should lock each other out so you can't push both at the same time.

                Steve N4LQ

                On 9/21/2013 10:22 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                 
                They are independent. However, it wont send like an iambic paddle. All you would get is the “dash”. So it’s strictly a bug only with dual levers.
                 
                Troy, W6HV
                 
                From: Steve
                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:14 PM
                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                 


                Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
                Steve N4LQ

                On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                 
                You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
                 
                My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
                 
                73,
                 
                Troy, W6HV
                 
                Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                 


                We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

                73

                David N1EA

                On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


                My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
                 
                73,
                Troy, W6HV




              • Steve
                Thanks Troy. I have been watching the vids and I detect some hesitation at times as if the user is trying to make a conscious effort to release the unused
                Message 8 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                  Thanks Troy. I have been  watching the vids and I detect some hesitation at times as if the user is trying to make a conscious effort to release the unused paddle. When paddles are connected they force each other out of the way but this seems to insert more opportunity for error.
                  It reminds me how once I calculated the motions needed to make every letter and number on a dual vs. single lever paddle. The single lever required far less movements with the exception of a few letters such as C and Q.
                  I've been alternating between my 1936A mac and the chrome stream mac here. There are some interesting differences. The 36 is one of the very few bugs that don't copy the Vibroplex design.
                  steve n4lq
                   
                  On 9/21/2013 10:38 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                   

                  Yes, if you start a string of dots and then (holding that lever) hit the dash lever, you will, in effect, insert a dash similar to an iambic. But hitting a few dashes and the hitting the dots will not necessarily insert the dots—depends on your timing. Not exactly like the cootie key setup.
                   
                  It’s a lot easier than I describe. Watch the video on the website: http://www.twradio.co.uk/TWOlympic.html
                   
                  Troy, W6HV
                   
                  From: Steve
                  Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:27 PM
                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                   


                  So are you saying that you must first release one lever before hitting the other? That sound like an iambic paddle with it's contacts wired together if I'm understanding you.
                  On the surface it sounds like more work or am I missing something?
                  I do like the idea of having separate pivot points for dot and dash levers but seems like they should lock each other out so you can't push both at the same time.

                  Steve N4LQ

                  On 9/21/2013 10:22 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                   
                  They are independent. However, it wont send like an iambic paddle. All you would get is the “dash”. So it’s strictly a bug only with dual levers.
                   
                  Troy, W6HV
                   
                  From: Steve
                  Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:14 PM
                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                   


                  Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
                  Steve N4LQ

                  On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                   
                  You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
                   
                  My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
                   
                  73,
                   
                  Troy, W6HV
                   
                  Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                   


                  We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

                  73

                  David N1EA

                  On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


                  My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
                   
                  73,
                  Troy, W6HV





                • Joe V31JP
                  Steve, I have hunting for a Vibroplex Double lever, but thanks to Pete, W5PEH, I acquired a Buzza 100 double lever and it is one of my smoothest bugs I have
                  Message 9 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                    Steve,

                    I have hunting for a Vibroplex Double lever, but thanks to Pete, W5PEH,
                    I acquired a Buzza 100 double lever and
                    it is one of my smoothest bugs I have owned. I can say, I don't think
                    about releasing one before the other, just
                    like my iambic paddles. In fact, just lately, I turned off the iambic
                    in my keyer and hardly noticed it like using
                    Tom's G3HGE, single lever paddle at W5FOC. The biggest difference I see
                    between keyers and bugs is the
                    bugs are not self completing! When I go back to a keyer, I sometimes
                    hang on a paddle too long at times.
                    As for the double lever Buzza, I never thought about it and just went to
                    sending. I am doing a refurbish of
                    my Buzza and can hardly wait to get it back on line. With a bug, double
                    or single lever, you swing from side
                    to side with your wrist, unlike stroking paddles in a double lever
                    paddle and never think about squeezing the two.
                    Come to think about it, I don't think about it with my paddles, either. ☺

                    On 9/21/2013 8:46 PM, Steve wrote:
                    > Thanks Troy. I have been watching the vids and I detect some
                    > hesitation at times as if the user is trying to make a conscious
                    > effort to release the unused paddle. When paddles are connected they
                    > force each other out of the way but this seems to insert more
                    > opportunity for error.
                    > It reminds me how once I calculated the motions needed to make every
                    > letter and number on a dual vs. single lever paddle. The single lever
                    > required far less movements with the exception of a few letters such
                    > as C and Q.
                    > I've been alternating between my 1936A mac and the chrome stream mac
                    > here. There are some interesting differences. The 36 is one of the
                    > very few bugs that don't copy the Vibroplex design.
                    > steve n4lq

                    --
                    Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                    P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                    (Hopkins Village) Belize
                    011-501-503-7346 Belize
                    011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                    or
                    5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                    Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                    U.S.A.
                    903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                    903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                    Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                    PG1915841
                    Skype: v31joepalooka
                    http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                    I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                    V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                  • Joe V31JP
                    Tonight, I was looking for a large and a medium Original weights in my shop and I guess all of those are in Texas! Can someone give me the length of those
                    Message 10 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                      Tonight, I was looking for a large and a medium Original weights in my
                      shop and I guess all of those
                      are in Texas! Can someone give me the length of those two? I have 4 or
                      5 of the small weights here,
                      but none of the other two. Thank you for the time and effort.

                      --
                      Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                      (Hopkins Village) Belize
                      011-501-503-7346 Belize
                      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                      or
                      5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                      Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                      U.S.A.
                      903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                      903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                      Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                      PG1915841
                      Skype: v31joepalooka
                      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                      I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                      V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                    • Benny Owens
                      HI JOE I HAVE ONE ON AN OLD PRESENTATION. IT IS A 3/4 INCH LENGTH. I HAVE SOME THAT VARY BUT ARE LOCKED IN CASE OUTSIDE BEDROOM DOOR AND DONT WANT TO BOTHER
                      Message 11 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                        HI JOE

                        I HAVE ONE ON AN OLD PRESENTATION.  IT IS A 3/4 INCH LENGTH.  I HAVE SOME THAT VARY BUT ARE LOCKED IN CASE OUTSIDE BEDROOM DOOR AND DONT WANT TO BOTHER XYL NOW.  IF YOU NEED MORE INFO LET ME KNOW TOMORROW.

                        73
                        BENNY K5KV


                        On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Joe V31JP <v31jp1957@...> wrote:
                         

                        Tonight, I was looking for a large and a medium Original weights in my
                        shop and I guess all of those
                        are in Texas! Can someone give me the length of those two? I have 4 or
                        5 of the small weights here,
                        but none of the other two. Thank you for the time and effort.

                        --
                        Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                        (Hopkins Village) Belize
                        011-501-503-7346 Belize
                        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                        or
                        5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                        Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                        U.S.A.
                        903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                        903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                        Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                        PG1915841
                        Skype: v31joepalooka
                        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                        I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                        V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


                      • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
                        You can override pendulm dots wiyh a dash. Independant. DR ... You can override pendulm dots wiyh a dash.  Independant. DR On Sep 21, 2013 10:14 PM, Steve
                        Message 12 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                          You can override pendulm dots wiyh a dash.  Independant.

                          DR

                          On Sep 21, 2013 10:14 PM, "Steve" <n4lq@...> wrote:


                          Can both paddles be activated at the same time or do they lock each other out like a typical bug?
                          Steve N4LQ

                          On 9/21/2013 10:05 PM, TroyW6HV wrote:
                           

                          You bet, David! I plan on using it (hopefully) on the QCWA CW Net tomorrow ((as NCS). Hope to not make too many goofs; it is a bit different feel. worked Fernando, N2FQ, last week and he was using his. So we plan on a two way with Olympics tomorrow if 40 meters cooperates.
                           
                          My bug is serial number 34. He finished it and shipped on the 16th. I don’t know if any more were being worked on.
                           
                          73,
                           
                          Troy, W6HV
                           
                          Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:58 PM
                          Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Olympic Bug
                           


                          We will have a two-way Olympic QSO, Troy.  I have serial #001, how many are there now.  It is very smooth and I like a dual lever bug.

                          73

                          David N1EA

                          On Sep 21, 2013 9:44 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:


                          My new "Ollie" arrived today. A truly beautiful bug. After corresponding with Fernando, N2FQ, about his Olympic and also with the craftsman, Tom, G3HGE, I ordered one. What a nice, smooth, bug!
                           
                          73,
                          Troy, W6HV





                        • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
                          Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so overriding dots is never done. DR ... Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so
                          Message 13 of 22 , Sep 21, 2013
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                            Correct, you roll your wrist, no finger muscles are used, so overriding dots is never done.

                            DR

                            On Sep 22, 2013 12:45 AM, "Joe V31JP" <v31jp1957@...> wrote:
                            Steve,

                            I have hunting for a Vibroplex Double lever, but thanks to Pete, W5PEH,
                            I acquired a Buzza 100 double lever and
                            it is one of my smoothest bugs I have owned.  I can say, I don't think
                            about releasing one before the other, just
                            like my iambic paddles.  In fact, just lately, I turned off the iambic
                            in my keyer and hardly noticed it like using
                            Tom's G3HGE, single lever paddle at W5FOC.  The biggest difference I see
                            between keyers and bugs is the
                            bugs are not self completing! When I go back to a keyer, I sometimes
                            hang on a paddle too long at times.
                            As for the double lever Buzza, I never thought about it and just went to
                            sending.  I am doing a refurbish of
                            my Buzza and can hardly wait to get it back on line. With a bug, double
                            or single lever, you swing from side
                            to side with your wrist, unlike stroking paddles in a double lever
                            paddle and never think about squeezing the two.
                            Come to think about it, I don't think about it with my paddles, either. ☺

                            On 9/21/2013 8:46 PM, Steve wrote:
                            > Thanks Troy. I have been  watching the vids and I detect some
                            > hesitation at times as if the user is trying to make a conscious
                            > effort to release the unused paddle. When paddles are connected they
                            > force each other out of the way but this seems to insert more
                            > opportunity for error.
                            > It reminds me how once I calculated the motions needed to make every
                            > letter and number on a dual vs. single lever paddle. The single lever
                            > required far less movements with the exception of a few letters such
                            > as C and Q.
                            > I've been alternating between my 1936A mac and the chrome stream mac
                            > here. There are some interesting differences. The 36 is one of the
                            > very few bugs that don't copy the Vibroplex design.
                            > steve n4lq

                            --
                            Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                            P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                            (Hopkins Village) Belize
                            011-501-503-7346 Belize
                            011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                            or
                            5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                            Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                            U.S.A.
                            903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                            903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                            Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                            PG1915841
                            Skype: v31joepalooka
                            http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                            I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                            V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691



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                          • kj4mpt
                            1/2 in and 3/4, respectively. Same bar stock as the small weights. 73 Chris ---In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Tonight, I was
                            Message 14 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                              1/2 in and 3/4, respectively.  Same bar stock as the small weights.  73 Chris 



                              ---In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                              Tonight, I was looking for a large and a medium Original weights in my
                              shop and I guess all of those
                              are in Texas! Can someone give me the length of those two? I have 4 or
                              5 of the small weights here,
                              but none of the other two. Thank you for the time and effort.

                              --
                              Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                              P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                              (Hopkins Village) Belize
                              011-501-503-7346 Belize
                              011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                              or
                              5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                              Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                              U.S.A.
                              903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                              903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                              Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                              PG1915841
                              Skype: v31joepalooka
                              http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                              I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                              V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                            • cloud runner
                              If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material. A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long
                              Message 15 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                                 
                                73  fred - kt5x
                                 
                                 
                              • Joe V31JP
                                Haw! You re reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights. Hopefully, this afternoon I will
                                Message 16 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                  Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                                  Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                                  order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.

                                  On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                                  If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                                   
                                  73  fred - kt5x

                                  -- 
                                  Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                  P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                  (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                  011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                  011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                  or
                                  5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                  Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                  U.S.A.
                                  903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                  903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                  Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                  PG1915841
                                  Skype: v31joepalooka
                                  http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                  I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                  V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                                • William Allen
                                  Wondering if making the weights out of heavier depleted Uranium would be advantageous?
                                  Message 17 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                    Wondering if making the weights out of heavier depleted Uranium would be advantageous?
                                     


                                    On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Joe V31JP <v31jp1957@...> wrote:
                                     

                                    Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                                    Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                                    order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



                                    On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                                    If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                                     
                                    73  fred - kt5x

                                    -- 
                                    Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                    P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                    (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                    011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                    011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                    or
                                    5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                    Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                    U.S.A.
                                    903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                    903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                    Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                    PG1915841
                                    Skype: v31joepalooka
                                    http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                    I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                    V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


                                  • cloud runner
                                    Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring. Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer
                                    Message 18 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                      Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                                       
                                       
                                      there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                                       
                                       
                                       

                                      Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                                      Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                                      order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



                                      On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                                      If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                                       
                                      73  fred - kt5x

                                      -- 
                                      Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                      (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                      011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                      or
                                      5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                      Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                      U.S.A.
                                      903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                      903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                      Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                      PG1915841
                                      Skype: v31joepalooka
                                      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                      I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                      V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


                                    • Joe V31JP
                                      Yes. I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights. 2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a
                                      Message 19 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                        Yes.  I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights.
                                        2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a Vibroplex diameter hole.
                                        http://www.2bradioparts.com/page33.html

                                        I just got back from town and I was able to get 3/4" drill rod.  So, I might be able to make a rope
                                        knurling die wheel, but the brass rod did not make it.  I will probably have to order some 1 foot
                                        lengths of various diameters to make bigger and smaller brass items.  I have 3/4" here, but it
                                        would be a real waste to make a 5/16", 3/8" or 1/2" thumb screw or nut from it.  A chap was
                                        paying for a butane bottle, but it was yellow and I saw MAP/butane on the label!  I asked to if
                                        I could see and he said it was much hotter then the normal butane!  One of the clerks said,
                                        "Come here, Joe."  Sure enough, they had more, at $27.00BZ/$13.50US a bottle.  I sprung
                                        for it and will see if I can braze with it, per Bill, W4PAL. He called it MAPP, but here, it is MAP.

                                        On 10/4/2013 12:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                                        Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                                         
                                         
                                        there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                                         

                                        -- 
                                        Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                        (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                        011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                        or
                                        5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                        Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                        U.S.A.
                                        903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                        903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                        Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                        PG1915841
                                        Skype: v31joepalooka
                                        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                        I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                        V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                                      • Steve
                                        I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it s the smoothest bug I ve ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a superior design over
                                        Message 20 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                          I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it's the smoothest bug I've ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a superior design over vibroplex but maybe the cost became too much for Ted and his 1938 model was just another vibroplex clone.
                                          Steve N4LQ

                                          On 10/4/2013 2:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                                           

                                          Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                                           
                                           
                                          there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                                           
                                           
                                           

                                          Haw!  You're reading my mind and gave me an answer I was going to ask a guy who has one of the larger diameter weights.
                                          Hopefully, this afternoon I will receive some ordered stock and see how much it costs me.  If I am not in bankruptcy, I will
                                          order some 1" stock. Or, I may have to wait for ordering from the US.  Thanks and I hope all is well out west.



                                          On 10/4/2013 10:33 AM, cloud runner wrote:
                                          If you want to make what I would consider a better weight, make the weight of larger diameter material.  A one inch dimater that was 1/4 inch or 3/8 inch long would be a more effective weight at varying the speed range than the stock ones.
                                           
                                          73  fred - kt5x

                                          -- 
                                          Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                          P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                          (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                          011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                          011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                          or
                                          5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                          Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                          U.S.A.
                                          903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                          903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                          Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                          PG1915841
                                          Skype: v31joepalooka
                                          http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                          I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                          V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691


                                        • herpie2003
                                          Love mine !!! Works great !!! George , N2JNZ SKCC 2836T From: Joe V31JP Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:30 PM To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:
                                          Message 21 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                            Love mine !!! Works great !!!
                                             
                                            George , N2JNZ
                                            SKCC 2836T
                                             
                                            From: Joe V31JP
                                            Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:30 PM
                                            Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Re: Vibroplex weights, lengths
                                             


                                            Yes.  I believe McElroy had it better with more mass in one shorter, but larger diameter weights.
                                            2B Radio Parts has a 1.9 oz. weight like that with a Vibroplex diameter hole.
                                            http://www.2bradioparts.com/page33.html

                                            I just got back from town and I was able to get 3/4" drill rod.  So, I might be able to make a rope
                                            knurling die wheel, but the brass rod did not make it.  I will probably have to order some 1 foot
                                            lengths of various diameters to make bigger and smaller brass items.  I have 3/4" here, but it
                                            would be a real waste to make a 5/16", 3/8" or 1/2" thumb screw or nut from it.  A chap was
                                            paying for a butane bottle, but it was yellow and I saw MAP/butane on the label!  I asked to if
                                            I could see and he said it was much hotter then the normal butane!  One of the clerks said,
                                            "Come here, Joe."  Sure enough, they had more, at $27.00BZ/$13.50US a bottle.  I sprung
                                            for it and will see if I can braze with it, per Bill, W4PAL. He called it MAPP, but here, it is MAP.

                                            On 10/4/2013 12:35 PM, cloud runner wrote:
                                            Larger diameter wts allows the weight that you have to be moved further out from the mainspring.  Adding more weights of a smaller diameter of necessity closer to the pendulum, does very little to slow the bug.  Sure, using heavier material for the same design will slow the bug, but I think what is desirable more than simply slowing, is a wider range.  think of the weights on the 1936 McElroy bug.  this bug will go both much slower and faster.  The trade-off is that speed is more sensitive to placement.
                                             
                                             
                                            there's one where you can see what I am talking about
                                             

                                            -- 
                                            Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                            P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                            (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                            011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                            011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                            or
                                            5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                            Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                            U.S.A.
                                            903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                            903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                            Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299, 
                                            PG1915841
                                            Skype: v31joepalooka
                                            http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                            I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                            V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
                                          • Joe V31JP
                                            I am hoping to acquire a Vibroplex double lever one day. I did acquire an Australian Buzza 100 double lever and love it. I just have to put in some TLC time
                                            Message 22 of 22 , Oct 4, 2013
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                                              I am hoping to acquire a Vibroplex double lever one day. I did acquire
                                              an Australian Buzza 100 double lever and love it. I just have to put in
                                              some TLC time
                                              with it and I suspect it will be one of my favourites.

                                              On 10/4/2013 6:41 PM, Steve wrote:
                                              > I happen to have a nice 1936A I use daily and it's the smoothest bug
                                              > I've ever used. I believe the separate pivot for the dash lever was a
                                              > superior design over vibroplex but maybe the cost became too much for
                                              > Ted and his 1938 model was just another vibroplex clone.
                                              > Steve N4LQ

                                              --
                                              Regards, Joe, Ronnie (Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                                              P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                                              (Hopkins Village) Belize
                                              011-501-503-7346 Belize
                                              011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                                              or
                                              5204 Texas Highway 49 W
                                              Omaha, TX 75571-6474
                                              U.S.A.
                                              903-434-9429 (My cellular when in Texas)
                                              903-884-5990 (Skype telephone number)
                                              Also, K8JP, member FOC-1743, CWops-876, QCWA-LM21894, OOTC-4607, A1OP, SKCC-3171T, NAQCC-5798, Flying Pig-2819, FISTS-7625CC951, A1C-2299,
                                              PG1915841
                                              Skype: v31joepalooka
                                              http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
                                              I am looking for Vibroplex Model X, Double lever and prefer basket cases to restore.
                                              V3FOC, I am SKCC 10691
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