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  • Vince
    ... That goes for me as well, any newcomers or Veterans of CW would like to ragchew on the air or shoot the breeze here, or email or on my group, you are all
    Message 1 of 6 , Jan 15, 2007
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      ---
      That goes for me as well, any newcomers or Veterans of CW would like
      to ragchew on the air or shoot the breeze here, or email or on my
      group, you are all welcome. I'm still very green when it comes to CW
      and Keys, but I do enjoy having fun as well as learning.

      email va3grv@...

      yahoo group
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWNV/

      73 de va3grv ee
      Vince







      In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
      <n6hpx_du1@...> wrote:
      >
      > I agree with you sir, and I mentioned this on another
      site..unfortunately the anit cw groups flamed my comments..I only
      mentioned that it wasnt that hard to learn and if they did it the
      same way my elmer taught me they would have passed the exams as I did
      on both..
      >
      > 73's from Larry
      >
      > ps: the philippines still require the 5 wpm morse tests
      >
      > Trail Fox <KT5X@...> wrote:
      > Hobbies are an (adult's way) of playing. An adult needs to
      accomplish something, play is when there is no pressure of having to
      accomplish something. When fishing nets were invented, fishing with a
      lure didn't go away. It became a hobby, a challenge, and fun. One
      doesn't have to be successful to have dinner. When digital modes
      replaced CW for essential communication, CW became a hobby. It has
      lost none of its challenge or sense of accomplishment, but success is
      neither required nor time pressued.
      >
      > In the Tewa language of the New Mexico Pueblo Indian, the same word
      is used for grandfather, teacher, and story teller. When one becomes
      a grandfather, one has the responsibility to teach by telling
      stories. Veteran CW ops have the responsibility of sharing their
      knowledge and skill.
      >
      > With 50 years experience CW operating, I will be happy to help
      anyone learn and enjoy CW any way I can. If you want to ask
      questions, or just QSO at any speed, write me an e-mail.
      >
      > Have fun with the hobby and CW,
      >
      > 73, Fred KT5X (W5YA/qrp)
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Yahoo! Groups Links
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________
      > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
      > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
      > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
      > cell numbers:639064813261,
      > 6581851894
      > Member:ARRL,PARL,
      > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
      > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario Transmitter Japan
      > monitoring:
      > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
      > repeaters:PALOMAR 146.730,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
      > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,guam 146.910
      > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
      > _________________________________________________________________
      >
      > ---------------------------------
      > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
      > always stay connected to friends.
      >
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    • Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines
      I still wished it had gone the other way on the FCC ruling but I still think the code should still be taught to the many out there. I approached a site
      Message 2 of 6 , Jan 15, 2007
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        I still wished it had gone the other way on the FCC ruling but I still think the code should still be taught to the many out there. I approached a site mentioning how in the old days you could approach a Elmer to learn the code and the technicial portions on the Radio, but when I mentioned where's the Elmer's when you ask about projects like PSK they had no answer. I laughed as I put out a comment on it and hasd only 1 reply on the forum.
        For me any new ham that comes along I will teach it if he wants to be taught and tell him its still part of our ham world,despite what others might say to him.

        Larry Fields,n6hpx

        Vince <va3grv1@...> wrote:
        ---
        That goes for me as well, any newcomers or Veterans of CW would like
        to ragchew on the air or shoot the breeze here, or email or on my
        group, you are all welcome. I'm still very green when it comes to CW
        and Keys, but I do enjoy having fun as well as learning.

        email va3grv@...

        yahoo group
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWNV/

        73 de va3grv ee
        Vince







        In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
        wrote:
        >
        > I agree with you sir, and I mentioned this on another
        site..unfortunately the anit cw groups flamed my comments..I only
        mentioned that it wasnt that hard to learn and if they did it the
        same way my elmer taught me they would have passed the exams as I did
        on both..
        >
        > 73's from Larry
        >
        > ps: the philippines still require the 5 wpm morse tests
        >
        > Trail Fox wrote:
        > Hobbies are an (adult's way) of playing. An adult needs to
        accomplish something, play is when there is no pressure of having to
        accomplish something. When fishing nets were invented, fishing with a
        lure didn't go away. It became a hobby, a challenge, and fun. One
        doesn't have to be successful to have dinner. When digital modes
        replaced CW for essential communication, CW became a hobby. It has
        lost none of its challenge or sense of accomplishment, but success is
        neither required nor time pressued.
        >
        > In the Tewa language of the New Mexico Pueblo Indian, the same word
        is used for grandfather, teacher, and story teller. When one becomes
        a grandfather, one has the responsibility to teach by telling
        stories. Veteran CW ops have the responsibility of sharing their
        knowledge and skill.
        >
        > With 50 years experience CW operating, I will be happy to help
        anyone learn and enjoy CW any way I can. If you want to ask
        questions, or just QSO at any speed, write me an e-mail.
        >
        > Have fun with the hobby and CW,
        >
        > 73, Fred KT5X (W5YA/qrp)
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ________________________________________________________________
        > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
        > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
        > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
        > cell numbers:639064813261,
        > 6581851894
        > Member:ARRL,PARL,
        > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
        > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario Transmitter Japan
        > monitoring:
        > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
        > repeaters:PALOMAR 146.730,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
        > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,guam 146.910
        > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
        > _________________________________________________________________
        >
        > ---------------------------------
        > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
        > always stay connected to friends.
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >





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        ________________________________________________________________
        www.qrz.com/n6hpx
        http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
        Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
        cell numbers:639064813261 manila
        cell numbers:6581851894 singapore
        Member:ARRL,PARL,
        6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
        VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario WW2 Antenna Transmit Japan
        monitoring:
        simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
        repeaters:wd6app 145.320 mhz,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
        repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,AH2G IRLP 3672
        ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
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      • Vince
        ... 73 Vince VA3GRV In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines ... but I still think the code should still be taught to the many out there. I
        Message 3 of 6 , Jan 16, 2007
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          ---I agree 100% Larry, Very Well Said.

          73 Vince VA3GRV




          In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
          <n6hpx_du1@...> wrote:
          >
          > I still wished it had gone the other way on the FCC ruling
          but I still think the code should still be taught to the many out
          there. I approached a site mentioning how in the old days you could
          approach a Elmer to learn the code and the technicial portions on the
          Radio, but when I mentioned where's the Elmer's when you ask about
          projects like PSK they had no answer. I laughed as I put out a
          comment on it and hasd only 1 reply on the forum.
          > For me any new ham that comes along I will teach it if he
          wants to be taught and tell him its still part of our ham
          world,despite what others might say to him.
          >
          > Larry Fields,n6hpx
          >
          > Vince <va3grv1@...> wrote:
          > ---
          > That goes for me as well, any newcomers or Veterans of CW would
          like
          > to ragchew on the air or shoot the breeze here, or email or on my
          > group, you are all welcome. I'm still very green when it comes to
          CW
          > and Keys, but I do enjoy having fun as well as learning.
          >
          > email va3grv@...
          >
          > yahoo group
          > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWNV/
          >
          > 73 de va3grv ee
          > Vince
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
          > wrote:
          > >
          > > I agree with you sir, and I mentioned this on another
          > site..unfortunately the anit cw groups flamed my comments..I only
          > mentioned that it wasnt that hard to learn and if they did it the
          > same way my elmer taught me they would have passed the exams as I
          did
          > on both..
          > >
          > > 73's from Larry
          > >
          > > ps: the philippines still require the 5 wpm morse tests
          > >
          > > Trail Fox wrote:
          > > Hobbies are an (adult's way) of playing. An adult needs to
          > accomplish something, play is when there is no pressure of having
          to
          > accomplish something. When fishing nets were invented, fishing with
          a
          > lure didn't go away. It became a hobby, a challenge, and fun. One
          > doesn't have to be successful to have dinner. When digital modes
          > replaced CW for essential communication, CW became a hobby. It has
          > lost none of its challenge or sense of accomplishment, but success
          is
          > neither required nor time pressued.
          > >
          > > In the Tewa language of the New Mexico Pueblo Indian, the same
          word
          > is used for grandfather, teacher, and story teller. When one
          becomes
          > a grandfather, one has the responsibility to teach by telling
          > stories. Veteran CW ops have the responsibility of sharing their
          > knowledge and skill.
          > >
          > > With 50 years experience CW operating, I will be happy to help
          > anyone learn and enjoy CW any way I can. If you want to ask
          > questions, or just QSO at any speed, write me an e-mail.
          > >
          > > Have fun with the hobby and CW,
          > >
          > > 73, Fred KT5X (W5YA/qrp)
          > >
          > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > ________________________________________________________________
          > > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
          > > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
          > > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
          > > cell numbers:639064813261,
          > > 6581851894
          > > Member:ARRL,PARL,
          > > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
          > > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario Transmitter Japan
          > > monitoring:
          > > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
          > > repeaters:PALOMAR 146.730,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
          > > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,guam 146.910
          > > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
          > > _________________________________________________________________
          > >
          > > ---------------------------------
          > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
          > > always stay connected to friends.
          > >
          > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > Yahoo! Groups Links
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > ________________________________________________________________
          > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
          > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
          > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
          > cell numbers:639064813261 manila
          > cell numbers:6581851894 singapore
          > Member:ARRL,PARL,
          > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
          > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario WW2 Antenna Transmit Japan
          > monitoring:
          > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
          > repeaters:wd6app 145.320 mhz,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
          > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,AH2G IRLP 3672
          > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
          > _________________________________________________________________
          >
          > ---------------------------------
          > Never miss an email again!
          > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it
          out.
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        • Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines
          Thanks last nite I went a local meeting on PSK31, which was my first and only so far to see it in action, later on after the meeting I asked a question via the
          Message 4 of 6 , Jan 16, 2007
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            Thanks last nite I went a local meeting on PSK31, which was my first and only so far to see it in action, later on after the meeting I asked a question via the web group, If for example I am on PSK and I come accross a Ham who is non-english and I send a message to him, will he be able to read my message in his language or in mine only, the comment came back that he would not see it in his language,but still in english.

            I recall a story of a Ham who was rag chewing with a Ham in <for example germany> and he chatted with this guy everyday, then finally the other party invited him to his place to meet, he did so, when he arrived the party couldn't speak a word of english, and he couldn't speak the other persons language, for the next 4 hours they chatted/rag chewed on the other persons Code keyer.

            Wonder where the PSK group would think towards that part, its just like when they came out with Echo Link, how many years before some even accepted it as to many it wasn't real radio, just internet connected.

            Weird world we live in now and seems like a step in the worng direction..

            Vince <va3grv1@...> wrote:
            ---I agree 100% Larry, Very Well Said.

            73 Vince VA3GRV




            In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
            wrote:
            >
            > I still wished it had gone the other way on the FCC ruling
            but I still think the code should still be taught to the many out
            there. I approached a site mentioning how in the old days you could
            approach a Elmer to learn the code and the technicial portions on the
            Radio, but when I mentioned where's the Elmer's when you ask about
            projects like PSK they had no answer. I laughed as I put out a
            comment on it and hasd only 1 reply on the forum.
            > For me any new ham that comes along I will teach it if he
            wants to be taught and tell him its still part of our ham
            world,despite what others might say to him.
            >
            > Larry Fields,n6hpx
            >
            > Vince wrote:
            > ---
            > That goes for me as well, any newcomers or Veterans of CW would
            like
            > to ragchew on the air or shoot the breeze here, or email or on my
            > group, you are all welcome. I'm still very green when it comes to
            CW
            > and Keys, but I do enjoy having fun as well as learning.
            >
            > email va3grv@...
            >
            > yahoo group
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CWNV/
            >
            > 73 de va3grv ee
            > Vince
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Larry ,n6hpx_du1 Philippines"
            > wrote:
            > >
            > > I agree with you sir, and I mentioned this on another
            > site..unfortunately the anit cw groups flamed my comments..I only
            > mentioned that it wasnt that hard to learn and if they did it the
            > same way my elmer taught me they would have passed the exams as I
            did
            > on both..
            > >
            > > 73's from Larry
            > >
            > > ps: the philippines still require the 5 wpm morse tests
            > >
            > > Trail Fox wrote:
            > > Hobbies are an (adult's way) of playing. An adult needs to
            > accomplish something, play is when there is no pressure of having
            to
            > accomplish something. When fishing nets were invented, fishing with
            a
            > lure didn't go away. It became a hobby, a challenge, and fun. One
            > doesn't have to be successful to have dinner. When digital modes
            > replaced CW for essential communication, CW became a hobby. It has
            > lost none of its challenge or sense of accomplishment, but success
            is
            > neither required nor time pressued.
            > >
            > > In the Tewa language of the New Mexico Pueblo Indian, the same
            word
            > is used for grandfather, teacher, and story teller. When one
            becomes
            > a grandfather, one has the responsibility to teach by telling
            > stories. Veteran CW ops have the responsibility of sharing their
            > knowledge and skill.
            > >
            > > With 50 years experience CW operating, I will be happy to help
            > anyone learn and enjoy CW any way I can. If you want to ask
            > questions, or just QSO at any speed, write me an e-mail.
            > >
            > > Have fun with the hobby and CW,
            > >
            > > 73, Fred KT5X (W5YA/qrp)
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Yahoo! Groups Links
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > ________________________________________________________________
            > > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
            > > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
            > > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
            > > cell numbers:639064813261,
            > > 6581851894
            > > Member:ARRL,PARL,
            > > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
            > > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario Transmitter Japan
            > > monitoring:
            > > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
            > > repeaters:PALOMAR 146.730,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
            > > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,guam 146.910
            > > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
            > > _________________________________________________________________
            > >
            > > ---------------------------------
            > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
            > > always stay connected to friends.
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Yahoo! Groups Links
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > ________________________________________________________________
            > www.qrz.com/n6hpx
            > http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
            > Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
            > cell numbers:639064813261 manila
            > cell numbers:6581851894 singapore
            > Member:ARRL,PARL,
            > 6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
            > VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario WW2 Antenna Transmit Japan
            > monitoring:
            > simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
            > repeaters:wd6app 145.320 mhz,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
            > repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,AH2G IRLP 3672
            > ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
            > _________________________________________________________________
            >
            > ---------------------------------
            > Never miss an email again!
            > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it
            out.
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >





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            ________________________________________________________________
            www.qrz.com/n6hpx
            http://profiles.yahoo.com/n6hpx_du1
            Amatuer Radio station:n6hpx/du1
            cell numbers:639064813261 manila
            cell numbers:6581851894 singapore
            Member:ARRL,PARL,
            6mTclub,Pinoyhams,DOS # 475
            VISITOR:KTWR,AWR Guam,FEBC Saipan,Hario WW2 Antenna Transmit Japan
            monitoring:
            simplex:146.520,147.570 mhz,144.740
            repeaters:wd6app 145.320 mhz,SANDRA 146.640 mhz
            repeaters:dx1L,dx1hb,dx1par,AH2G IRLP 3672
            ->>>I support morse code testing at 5 wpm on Extra class<<<-
            _________________________________________________________________

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