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RE: [cw_bugs] Re: Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

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  • N9BOR
    Yes, you are correct. 73 de Mike, N9BOR From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k3eax Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:40
    Message 1 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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      Yes, you are correct.

       

      73 de Mike, N9BOR

       

      From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k3eax
      Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:40 AM
      To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [cw_bugs] Re: Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

       

       

      Thank you both for your replies. I've just 'phoned MFJ and was lead to beleive that even though their keyers are labeled "iambic" they will function with my Kent single paddle key. Have I understood MFJ correctly?

      Al

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    • William
      Check out Kengaus for TICK keyers and Idiom Press for Pico keyers. Both are simple one chip kits that have memory. Easy, small and cheap. Put a single paddle
      Message 2 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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        Check out Kengaus for TICK keyers and Idiom Press for Pico keyers. Both are simple one chip kits that have memory. Easy, small and cheap.
        Put a single paddle on them and you will never know they are iambic.
        Bill, wv1n

        --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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        > These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
        >
        > Al in Philadelphia
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      • Bart Hock
        Al, The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic
        Message 3 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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          Al,
          The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic keyer is incapable of "iambic" keying because I can not close both contacts together.
          It does work just fine as a non-iambic keyer - holding the dit contact closed causes a string of dits, the dah contact closed causes a string of dahs. No way to get the alternating dits and dahs but I don't really miss that. I don't use a keyer very much but when I do, I just don't use the Iambic function. I hope this helps.

          Les


          From: k3eax <k3eax@...>
          To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:13 AM
          Subject: [cw_bugs] Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

           
          These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?

          Al in Philadelphia



        • Joseph L Pontek
          The problem might be with some keyers, if you stroked the paddle back and forth rapidly, the keyer will remember those and send di, da, di, dah. Some keyers
          Message 4 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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            The problem might be with some keyers, if you stroked the paddle back and forth rapidly,
            the keyer will remember those and send di, da, di, dah.

            Some keyers have dot and dash memory as well as self completing. Add the iambic
            function, it does take some getting used to.  I was not really aware of my using the
            iambic function until I used one of my non-iambic keyers I had sold to a friend and
            visited his shack.  Ouch!  I really had to concentrate on my sending.
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            On 11/28/2011 1:57 PM, Bart Hock wrote:
            Al,
            The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic keyer is incapable of "iambic" keying because I can not close both contacts together.
            It does work just fine as a non-iambic keyer - holding the dit contact closed causes a string of dits, the dah contact closed causes a string of dahs. No way to get the alternating dits and dahs but I don't really miss that. I don't use a keyer very much but when I do, I just don't use the Iambic function. I hope this helps.

            Les


            From: k3eax <k3eax@...>
            To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:13 AM
            Subject: [cw_bugs] Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

             
            These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?

            Al in Philadelphia



          • Al
               Thanks to all those who helped me to understand that an electronic keyer is suitable for both iambic and single-paddle operation.    It s interesting to
            Message 5 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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                 Thanks to all those who helped me to understand that an electronic keyer is suitable for both iambic and single-paddle operation.

                 It's interesting to note that I had earlier spoken on the 'phone with the sales representatives of three major mail-order vendors of amateur equipment and  none seemed to be aware that single-paddle operation did not require anything other than the typical electronic keyer! So much for trusting that an informed salesperson will be there at the other end of the 'phone-line. Please be aware that MFJ was unlike these three as a technical rep. did explain in detail what several on this group were trying to tell me  ---- the failure to understand was my own fault.  


                  Al in Philadelphia .



            • k5est
              I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits, 73....Walter-K5EST
              Message 6 of 11 , Nov 30, 2011
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                I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits,
                <http://wb9kzy.com/ham.htm>

                73....Walter-K5EST



                --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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                > These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
                >
                > Al in Philadelphia
                >
              • Mike Markowski
                K1EL at http://k1el.com also offers well regarded kits. (Sorry if this has already mentioned and missed by me in this thread!) 73, Mike ab3ap
                Message 7 of 11 , Nov 30, 2011
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                  K1EL at http://k1el.com also offers well regarded kits. (Sorry if this has
                  already mentioned and missed by me in this thread!)

                  73,
                  Mike ab3ap

                  On 11/30/2011 12:05 PM, k5est wrote:
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                  >
                  > I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits,
                  > <http://wb9kzy.com/ham.htm>
                  >
                  > 73....Walter-K5EST
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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                  >> These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
                  >>
                  >> Al in Philadelphia
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