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Re: [cw_bugs] Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

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  • Kate Hutton
    If I have a dual lever paddle, I generally don t use the iambic function, anyway. As far as I can tell, the keyer behaves the same way with a single lever
    Message 1 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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      If I have a dual lever paddle, I generally don't use the iambic function, anyway.  As far as I can tell, the keyer behaves the same way with a single lever paddle.  Or am I missing something.  Are you trying to use it as a cootie?

      73 Kate K6HTN

      On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Joseph L Pontek <k8jp@...> wrote:
      Actually, most stand alone keyers have several modes, including
      non-iambic, Al.

      161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty&  Sidney Pontek
      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
      (Hopkins Village) Belize
      011-501-503-7346 Belize
      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
      903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
      V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
      FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
      LotW
      Skype: v31joepalooka
      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair


      On 11/28/2011 10:13 AM, k3eax wrote:
      >   These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
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      >    Al in Philadelphia
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    • k3eax
      Thank you both for your replies. I ve just phoned MFJ and was lead to beleive that even though their keyers are labeled iambic they will function with my
      Message 2 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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        Thank you both for your replies. I've just 'phoned MFJ and was lead to beleive that even though their keyers are labeled "iambic" they will function with my Kent single paddle key. Have I understood MFJ correctly?

        Al

        --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, Kate Hutton <katehutton@...> wrote:
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        > If I have a dual lever paddle, I generally don't use the iambic function,
        > anyway. As far as I can tell, the key behaves the same way with a single
        > lever paddle. Or am I missing something. Are you trying to use it as a
        > cootie?
        >
        > 73 Kate K6HTN
        >
        > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Joseph L Ponte <k8jp@...> wrote:
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        > > Actually, most stand alone keyers have several modes, including
        > > non-iambic, Al.
        > >
        > > 161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty& Sidney Pontek
        > > P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
        > > (Hopkins Village) Belize
        > > 011-501-503-7346 Belize
        > > 011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
        > > 903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
        > > V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
        > > FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
        > > LotW
        > > Skype: v31 joe palooka
        > > http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair
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        > > On 11/28/2011 10:13 AM, k3eax wrote:
        > > > These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in
        > > circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
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        > > > Al in Philadelphia
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      • N9BOR
        Yes, you are correct. 73 de Mike, N9BOR From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k3eax Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:40
        Message 3 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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          Yes, you are correct.

           

          73 de Mike, N9BOR

           

          From: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of k3eax
          Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:40 AM
          To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [cw_bugs] Re: Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

           

           

          Thank you both for your replies. I've just 'phoned MFJ and was lead to beleive that even though their keyers are labeled "iambic" they will function with my Kent single paddle key. Have I understood MFJ correctly?

          Al

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        • William
          Check out Kengaus for TICK keyers and Idiom Press for Pico keyers. Both are simple one chip kits that have memory. Easy, small and cheap. Put a single paddle
          Message 4 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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            Check out Kengaus for TICK keyers and Idiom Press for Pico keyers. Both are simple one chip kits that have memory. Easy, small and cheap.
            Put a single paddle on them and you will never know they are iambic.
            Bill, wv1n

            --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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            > These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
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            > Al in Philadelphia
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          • Bart Hock
            Al, The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic
            Message 5 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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              Al,
              The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic keyer is incapable of "iambic" keying because I can not close both contacts together.
              It does work just fine as a non-iambic keyer - holding the dit contact closed causes a string of dits, the dah contact closed causes a string of dahs. No way to get the alternating dits and dahs but I don't really miss that. I don't use a keyer very much but when I do, I just don't use the Iambic function. I hope this helps.

              Les


              From: k3eax <k3eax@...>
              To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:13 AM
              Subject: [cw_bugs] Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

               
              These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?

              Al in Philadelphia



            • Joseph L Pontek
              The problem might be with some keyers, if you stroked the paddle back and forth rapidly, the keyer will remember those and send di, da, di, dah. Some keyers
              Message 6 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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                The problem might be with some keyers, if you stroked the paddle back and forth rapidly,
                the keyer will remember those and send di, da, di, dah.

                Some keyers have dot and dash memory as well as self completing. Add the iambic
                function, it does take some getting used to.  I was not really aware of my using the
                iambic function until I used one of my non-iambic keyers I had sold to a friend and
                visited his shack.  Ouch!  I really had to concentrate on my sending.
                161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
                P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
                (Hopkins Village) Belize
                011-501-503-7346 Belize
                011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
                903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
                V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
                FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
                LotW
                Skype: v31joepalooka
                http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

                On 11/28/2011 1:57 PM, Bart Hock wrote:
                Al,
                The iambic keyer response with alternating dits and dahs when BOTH contacts are closed. With the single lever keyer (like my Vibrokeyer) even an Iambic keyer is incapable of "iambic" keying because I can not close both contacts together.
                It does work just fine as a non-iambic keyer - holding the dit contact closed causes a string of dits, the dah contact closed causes a string of dahs. No way to get the alternating dits and dahs but I don't really miss that. I don't use a keyer very much but when I do, I just don't use the Iambic function. I hope this helps.

                Les


                From: k3eax <k3eax@...>
                To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:13 AM
                Subject: [cw_bugs] Needed: electronic keyer for single-paddle operation (non-iambic)

                 
                These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?

                Al in Philadelphia



              • Al
                   Thanks to all those who helped me to understand that an electronic keyer is suitable for both iambic and single-paddle operation.    It s interesting to
                Message 7 of 11 , Nov 28, 2011
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                     Thanks to all those who helped me to understand that an electronic keyer is suitable for both iambic and single-paddle operation.

                     It's interesting to note that I had earlier spoken on the 'phone with the sales representatives of three major mail-order vendors of amateur equipment and  none seemed to be aware that single-paddle operation did not require anything other than the typical electronic keyer! So much for trusting that an informed salesperson will be there at the other end of the 'phone-line. Please be aware that MFJ was unlike these three as a technical rep. did explain in detail what several on this group were trying to tell me  ---- the failure to understand was my own fault.  


                      Al in Philadelphia .



                • k5est
                  I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits, 73....Walter-K5EST
                  Message 8 of 11 , Nov 30, 2011
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                    I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits,
                    <http://wb9kzy.com/ham.htm>

                    73....Walter-K5EST



                    --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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                    > These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
                    >
                    > Al in Philadelphia
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                  • Mike Markowski
                    K1EL at http://k1el.com also offers well regarded kits. (Sorry if this has already mentioned and missed by me in this thread!) 73, Mike ab3ap
                    Message 9 of 11 , Nov 30, 2011
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                      K1EL at http://k1el.com also offers well regarded kits. (Sorry if this has
                      already mentioned and missed by me in this thread!)

                      73,
                      Mike ab3ap

                      On 11/30/2011 12:05 PM, k5est wrote:
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                      > I have had good success with Jackson Harbor kits,
                      > <http://wb9kzy.com/ham.htm>
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                      > 73....Walter-K5EST
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                      > --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "k3eax" <k3eax@...> wrote:
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                      >> These seem to be unavailable as most newer rigs have built-in circuitry. Any suggestions for a source?
                      >>
                      >> Al in Philadelphia
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