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  • William Schmidt
    Joe, Where do you get asphaltum? Does the final result look different Than powder coat or enamel? Bill / wv1n Velo, ergo sum.
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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      Joe,
      Where do you get asphaltum?  Does the final result look different
      Than powder coat or enamel?
      Bill / wv1n

      Velo, ergo sum.

      On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Joseph L Pontek <k8jp@...> wrote:

       

      When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is
      minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done.  In '55 they did chrome,
      but not as good as today. For chrome, I recommend going to the shop for that.
      I only do the nickel at home as it is not hazardous.  Also, my 1912 upper parts
      were originally done in nickel and I am doing a restoration, hence the nickel
      plating and the base will be done in the old Japanning way with asphaltum,
      a lengthy, but well worth it process, I believe.

      I will see my 'new' keys tomorrow night when I get to my home in Texas.
      I am excited about that.  I will be getting my watchmakers lath as well.
      If the Blue Racer base needs to be re-chromed, I may try to have it done
      before I return home to Belize in three weeks.

      161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
      P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
      (Hopkins Village) Belize
      011-501-503-7346 Belize
      011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
      903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
      V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
      FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
      LotW
      Skype: v31joepalooka
      http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

      On 10/31/2011 8:47 AM, k4oso@... wrote:
      I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
      161, Milt
      In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
      Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
      Typically copper, then the chromium.
      Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
      polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
       


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    • Joseph L Pontek
      Hi, Bill. Sorry to take so long to reply. I had to finish the November News Sheet for the FOC and now I am packing for the trip to Texas tomorrow. I found
      Message 2 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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        Hi, Bill.

        Sorry to take so long to reply.  I had to finish the November News Sheet for the FOC
        and now I am packing for the trip to Texas tomorrow.

        I found asphaltum on E-Bay and just bid on it.  You can find it liquid form as varnish.
        I am going to try and do it the traditional way.  I have had some guys tell me the
        powder coating are good, but I cannot say myself.  The enamels can be good if
        the surface is properly prepared and it is baked as well.  I used to go body work
        back in the 50s and 60s, so I remember the hard work involved in surface preparation
        before painting.  Asphaltum is, basically, a black varnish. Proper formulas abound,
        but Bill, W4PAL, recommends 2 parts boiled linseed oil, 5 parts turpentine, 3 parts
        asphaltum powder and optional 3 parts rosin.  The rosin appears to sometimes
        gives a less smoother finish then without it.  I will go without it myself this time.
        Bill says it takes a minimum of 5 coats for a good finish.  After these, you will have
        hard plastic like coating.  Do a Google search for it.  Bill's book lists a source,
        but they are out of business.  It is used for art work and printing as well.  I think
        Model-T Fords were painted with it.  It rarely wears off, but is chipped away.

        If you want what I call the bible of key restoration, get the "HOW TO RESTORE
        TELEGRAPH KEYS" by W. R. Smith.  I just got mine out of my suit case as it
        is book I constantly read and reread.

        http://www.wrsmithtelegraphkeys.com
        or
        http://w1tp.com/mwr.htm








        161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
        (Hopkins Village) Belize
        011-501-503-7346 Belize
        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
        903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
        V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
        FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
        LotW
        Skype: v31joepalooka
        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

        On 10/31/2011 4:22 PM, William Schmidt wrote:
        Joe,
        Where do you get asphaltum?  Does the final result look different
        Than powder coat or enamel?
        Bill / wv1n

        Velo, ergo sum.

        On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Joseph L Pontek <k8jp@...> wrote:

         

        When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is
        minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done.  In '55 they did chrome,
        but not as good as today. For chrome, I recommend going to the shop for that.
        I only do the nickel at home as it is not hazardous.  Also, my 1912 upper parts
        were originally done in nickel and I am doing a restoration, hence the nickel
        plating and the base will be done in the old Japanning way with asphaltum,
        a lengthy, but well worth it process, I believe.

        I will see my 'new' keys tomorrow night when I get to my home in Texas.
        I am excited about that.  I will be getting my watchmakers lath as well.
        If the Blue Racer base needs to be re-chromed, I may try to have it done
        before I return home to Belize in three weeks.

        161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
        (Hopkins Village) Belize
        011-501-503-7346 Belize
        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
        903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
        V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
        FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
        LotW
        Skype: v31joepalooka
        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

        On 10/31/2011 8:47 AM, k4oso@... wrote:
        I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
        161, Milt
        In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
        Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
        Typically copper, then the chromium.
        Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
        polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
         


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