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  • k4oso@aol.com
    I ll let you be the expert on the process, Joe. My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha. It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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      I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
      161, Milt
      In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
      Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
      Typically copper, then the chromium.
      Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
      polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
       
    • Joseph L Pontek
      When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done. In 55 they did chrome, but not
      Message 2 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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        When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is
        minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done.  In '55 they did chrome,
        but not as good as today. For chrome, I recommend going to the shop for that.
        I only do the nickel at home as it is not hazardous.  Also, my 1912 upper parts
        were originally done in nickel and I am doing a restoration, hence the nickel
        plating and the base will be done in the old Japanning way with asphaltum,
        a lengthy, but well worth it process, I believe.

        I will see my 'new' keys tomorrow night when I get to my home in Texas.
        I am excited about that.  I will be getting my watchmakers lath as well.
        If the Blue Racer base needs to be re-chromed, I may try to have it done
        before I return home to Belize in three weeks.
        161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
        P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
        (Hopkins Village) Belize
        011-501-503-7346 Belize
        011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
        903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
        V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
        FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
        LotW
        Skype: v31joepalooka
        http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

        On 10/31/2011 8:47 AM, k4oso@... wrote:
        I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
        161, Milt
        In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
        Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
        Typically copper, then the chromium.
        Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
        polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
         


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      • William Schmidt
        Joe, Where do you get asphaltum? Does the final result look different Than powder coat or enamel? Bill / wv1n Velo, ergo sum.
        Message 3 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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          Joe,
          Where do you get asphaltum?  Does the final result look different
          Than powder coat or enamel?
          Bill / wv1n

          Velo, ergo sum.

          On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Joseph L Pontek <k8jp@...> wrote:

           

          When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is
          minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done.  In '55 they did chrome,
          but not as good as today. For chrome, I recommend going to the shop for that.
          I only do the nickel at home as it is not hazardous.  Also, my 1912 upper parts
          were originally done in nickel and I am doing a restoration, hence the nickel
          plating and the base will be done in the old Japanning way with asphaltum,
          a lengthy, but well worth it process, I believe.

          I will see my 'new' keys tomorrow night when I get to my home in Texas.
          I am excited about that.  I will be getting my watchmakers lath as well.
          If the Blue Racer base needs to be re-chromed, I may try to have it done
          before I return home to Belize in three weeks.

          161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
          P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
          (Hopkins Village) Belize
          011-501-503-7346 Belize
          011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
          903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
          V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
          FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
          LotW
          Skype: v31joepalooka
          http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

          On 10/31/2011 8:47 AM, k4oso@... wrote:
          I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
          161, Milt
          In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
          Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
          Typically copper, then the chromium.
          Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
          polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
           


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        • Joseph L Pontek
          Hi, Bill. Sorry to take so long to reply. I had to finish the November News Sheet for the FOC and now I am packing for the trip to Texas tomorrow. I found
          Message 4 of 13 , Oct 31, 2011
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            Hi, Bill.

            Sorry to take so long to reply.  I had to finish the November News Sheet for the FOC
            and now I am packing for the trip to Texas tomorrow.

            I found asphaltum on E-Bay and just bid on it.  You can find it liquid form as varnish.
            I am going to try and do it the traditional way.  I have had some guys tell me the
            powder coating are good, but I cannot say myself.  The enamels can be good if
            the surface is properly prepared and it is baked as well.  I used to go body work
            back in the 50s and 60s, so I remember the hard work involved in surface preparation
            before painting.  Asphaltum is, basically, a black varnish. Proper formulas abound,
            but Bill, W4PAL, recommends 2 parts boiled linseed oil, 5 parts turpentine, 3 parts
            asphaltum powder and optional 3 parts rosin.  The rosin appears to sometimes
            gives a less smoother finish then without it.  I will go without it myself this time.
            Bill says it takes a minimum of 5 coats for a good finish.  After these, you will have
            hard plastic like coating.  Do a Google search for it.  Bill's book lists a source,
            but they are out of business.  It is used for art work and printing as well.  I think
            Model-T Fords were painted with it.  It rarely wears off, but is chipped away.

            If you want what I call the bible of key restoration, get the "HOW TO RESTORE
            TELEGRAPH KEYS" by W. R. Smith.  I just got mine out of my suit case as it
            is book I constantly read and reread.

            http://www.wrsmithtelegraphkeys.com
            or
            http://w1tp.com/mwr.htm








            161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
            P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
            (Hopkins Village) Belize
            011-501-503-7346 Belize
            011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
            903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
            V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
            FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
            LotW
            Skype: v31joepalooka
            http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

            On 10/31/2011 4:22 PM, William Schmidt wrote:
            Joe,
            Where do you get asphaltum?  Does the final result look different
            Than powder coat or enamel?
            Bill / wv1n

            Velo, ergo sum.

            On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Joseph L Pontek <k8jp@...> wrote:

             

            When I bought my 1955 Blue Racer Deluxe, it was commented that there is
            minor pitting on the base, so I may have my base done.  In '55 they did chrome,
            but not as good as today. For chrome, I recommend going to the shop for that.
            I only do the nickel at home as it is not hazardous.  Also, my 1912 upper parts
            were originally done in nickel and I am doing a restoration, hence the nickel
            plating and the base will be done in the old Japanning way with asphaltum,
            a lengthy, but well worth it process, I believe.

            I will see my 'new' keys tomorrow night when I get to my home in Texas.
            I am excited about that.  I will be getting my watchmakers lath as well.
            If the Blue Racer base needs to be re-chromed, I may try to have it done
            before I return home to Belize in three weeks.

            161, Joe, Ronnie(Rowena), Marty & Sidney Pontek
            P.O. Box 280, Dangriga, Stann Creek District
            (Hopkins Village) Belize
            011-501-503-7346 Belize
            011-501-666-3564 Belize (cellular)
            903-424-4267 (My cellular when in Texas)
            V31JP K8JP VP5/K8JP VP5JP K8JP/VA2
            FOC 1743 CWops 876, A1OP, SKCC 3171T, FISTS 7625 CC 951
            LotW
            Skype: v31joepalooka
            http://www.justanswer.com/lp-1eh8-tool-repair 

            On 10/31/2011 8:47 AM, k4oso@... wrote:
            I'll let you be the expert on the process, Joe.  My Racer is all done and looking good. ha ha.  It was not expensive and did not expose me to hazardous chemicals.  Thats what I call a cool process.
            161, Milt
            In a message dated 10/31/2011 10:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, k8jp@... writes:
            Chrome requires two steps, Milt.
            Typically copper, then the chromium.
            Nickel can be done in one step, but copper first gives
            polished nickel a deeper shine, supposedly.
             


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