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  • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
    For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com They have what you need. Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-) David N1EA
    Message 1 of 9 , Oct 8, 2011
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      For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com

      They have what you need.

      Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-)

      David N1EA

      On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, William <fretjock@...> wrote:
      I recently picked up a Les Logan 515.  While I was cleaning it up the dot return sping sprung off the table and was never seen again.  I tried replacing it with a pen spring but it was too tight.  I then noticed that there was a small spring around the lower pole of the trunion.  For the life of me I could not see its purpose it that location.  I transferred it to the dot spring location and it seems to work well.
      Is the spring on the trunion pole a "spare" or is it necessary for some some function?  Please check out your Speed X and let me know if you have a lower trunion spring.

      Bill/wv1n



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    • William Schmidt
      David, Thanks for the resource information. Knowing which of the thousands of springs they offer is a problem. Is there any technical data resource available
      Message 2 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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        David,

        Thanks for the resource information.  Knowing which of the thousands of springs they offer is a problem.  Is there any technical data resource available for speed x  keys?  Machine drawings or part specs?

        The carpet in my shack eats SMDs as well as springs.  I usually find them 2 months later when I walk around barefoot.
        If I cleaned my shack I would not be able to find anything.  It's a process I call cognitive entropy.

        Bill/wv1n



        To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
        From: n1ea@...
        Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:01:23 -0400
        Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Les Logan spings

         
        For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com

        They have what you need.

        Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-)

        David N1EA


        On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, William <fretjock@...> wrote:
        I recently picked up a Les Logan 515.  While I was cleaning it up the dot return sping sprung off the table and was never seen again.  I tried replacing it with a pen spring but it was too tight.  I then noticed that there was a small spring around the lower pole of the trunion.  For the life of me I could not see its purpose it that location.  I transferred it to the dot spring location and it seems to work well.
        Is the spring on the trunion pole a "spare" or is it necessary for some some function?  Please check out your Speed X and let me know if you have a lower trunion spring.

        Bill/wv1n



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      • Jerry
        I doubt the spring is AL or Stainless.. just wave a magnet around over the carpet .. You will find it..(along with all those small screws you dropped over the
        Message 3 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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          I doubt the spring is AL or Stainless.. just 'wave a magnet around over the carpet'.. You will find it..(along with all those small screws you dropped over the years as well ! ;o)
          Jerry/VE6CPP

          On 10/9/2011 6:46 AM, William Schmidt wrote:
           

          David,

          Thanks for the resource information.  Knowing which of the thousands of springs they offer is a problem.  Is there any technical data resource available for speed x  keys?  Machine drawings or part specs?

          The carpet in my shack eats SMDs as well as springs.  I usually find them 2 months later when I walk around barefoot.
          If I cleaned my shack I would not be able to find anything.  It's a process I call cognitive entropy.

          Bill/wv1n



          To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
          From: n1ea@...
          Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:01:23 -0400
          Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Les Logan spings

           
          For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com

          They have what you need.

          Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-)

          David N1EA


          On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, William <fretjock@...> wrote:
          I recently picked up a Les Logan 515.  While I was cleaning it up the dot return sping sprung off the table and was never seen again.  I tried replacing it with a pen spring but it was too tight.  I then noticed that there was a small spring around the lower pole of the trunion.  For the life of me I could not see its purpose it that location.  I transferred it to the dot spring location and it seems to work well.
          Is the spring on the trunion pole a "spare" or is it necessary for some some function?  Please check out your Speed X and let me know if you have a lower trunion spring.

          Bill/wv1n



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        • wz4cw@comcast.net
          Bill-    I lost a J-38 terminal pin in the carpet-  I could guess about where it might be-  I was able to retrieve it by using a refrigerator magnet - 
          Message 4 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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            Bill-

               I lost a J-38 terminal pin in the carpet-  I could guess about where it might be-  I was able to retrieve it by using a "refrigerator magnet"-  That might work for your lost spring?

            73     Carl,  WZ4CW,  SKCC 918,  FISTS 13491


            From: "William Schmidt" <fretjock@...>
            To: "cw bugs" <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2011 8:46:15 AM
            Subject: RE: [cw_bugs] Les Logan spings

             

            David,

            Thanks for the resource information.  Knowing which of the thousands of springs they offer is a problem.  Is there any technical data resource available for speed x  keys?  Machine drawings or part specs?

            The carpet in my shack eats SMDs as well as springs.  I usually find them 2 months later when I walk around barefoot.
            If I cleaned my shack I would not be able to find anything.  It's a process I call cognitive entropy.

            Bill/wv1n



            To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
            From: n1ea@...
            Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:01:23 -0400
            Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Les Logan spings

             
            For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com

            They have what you need.

            Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-)

            David N1EA


            On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, William <fretjock@...> wrote:
            I recently picked up a Les Logan 515.  While I was cleaning it up the dot return sping sprung off the table and was never seen again.  I tried replacing it with a pen spring but it was too tight.  I then noticed that there was a small spring around the lower pole of the trunion.  For the life of me I could not see its purpose it that location.  I transferred it to the dot spring location and it seems to work well.
            Is the spring on the trunion pole a "spare" or is it necessary for some some function?  Please check out your Speed X and let me know if you have a lower trunion spring.

            Bill/wv1n



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          • Joseph L Pontek
            I keep an old speaker magnets for the dropped parts cure. I put it in a zipped plastic bag and after the chore is done, I remove the magnet from the bag and
            Message 5 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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              I keep an old speaker magnets for the 'dropped parts' cure.
              I put it in a zipped plastic bag and after the chore is
              done, I remove the magnet from the bag and the
              parts, and trash, drop into a pan and magnet is still clean.

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              On 10/9/2011 7:57 AM, Jerry wrote:
              I doubt the spring is AL or Stainless.. just 'wave a magnet around over the carpet'.. You will find it..(along with all those small screws you dropped over the years as well ! ;o)
              Jerry/VE6CPP

              On 10/9/2011 6:46 AM, William Schmidt wrote:
               

              David,

              Thanks for the resource information.  Knowing which of the thousands of springs they offer is a problem.  Is there any technical data resource available for speed x  keys?  Machine drawings or part specs?

              The carpet in my shack eats SMDs as well as springs.  I usually find them 2 months later when I walk around barefoot.
              If I cleaned my shack I would not be able to find anything.  It's a process I call cognitive entropy.

              Bill/wv1n



              To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
              From: n1ea@...
              Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:01:23 -0400
              Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Les Logan spings

               
              For replacement springs, go to www.smallparts.com

              They have what you need.

              Better clean the house those exact springs are difficult to find :-)

              David N1EA


              On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, William <fretjock@...> wrote:
              I recently picked up a Les Logan 515.  While I was cleaning it up the dot return sping sprung off the table and was never seen again.  I tried replacing it with a pen spring but it was too tight.  I then noticed that there was a small spring around the lower pole of the trunion.  For the life of me I could not see its purpose it that location.  I transferred it to the dot spring location and it seems to work well.
              Is the spring on the trunion pole a "spare" or is it necessary for some some function?  Please check out your Speed X and let me know if you have a lower trunion spring.

              Bill/wv1n



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            • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
              That reminds me, I have a six pound alnico magnet taken from a bad magnetron from a ship 20 kW peak 3 cm radar transceiver. I often used the magnets to hold
              Message 6 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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                That reminds me, I have a six pound alnico magnet taken from a bad magnetron from a ship 20 kW peak 3 cm radar transceiver.  I often used the magnets to hold down papers in the radio room after I replaced maggies.

                I'm sure an investment in such a magnet would be well worth it considering the frequent loss of SMD parts and a unique spring.

                Strong magnets are available - such as this one - and I found a place that sells them much more inexpensively than most $5 vs. $30.

                http://www.indigo.com/magnets/gphmgnts/Nd-rod-magnets.html?from=GoogleBase

                The 44202-25  Rod magnet, D7.5 x 25mm, Nd rare earth, N42   sells in lots of  1-9 for only  $ 4.30 - consider that a steal and buy two or three at that price since the competition sells them for $30.00 each.

                Also two are more fun to play with - and children and grandchildren love them.  I once begged my grandmother for a magnet for years and she got me a nice red horseshoe magnet that plumbers use - I loved it until I lost it.

                73   

                David J. Ring, Jr., N1EA
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              • Mort, G2JL
                Greetings ! Why pay for magnets ? It is child s play to dismantle a scrapped microwave-oven & get the magnet from it, They are immensely useful, but
                Message 7 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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                  Greetings !
                   
                  Why pay for magnets ?   It is child's play to dismantle a scrapped microwave-oven & get the magnet from it,  They are immensely useful,  but remember to use it in a stout plastic bag,  lest it pick up iron filings or other sharp shreds.
                   
                  I acquired a Mac key,  and dropped the spring pronto - I think these springs have,  in fact,  a mind of their own.  I'd reached for my magnet almost before the spring hit the floor...
                   
                  On quite a different tack,  whenever I throw away an old TV or monitor with a CRT,  I retrieve the scanning-yoke ferrite.  It's usually in two halves,  held together with spring-clips.  They make excellent RFI/EMC stoppers on TV,  VCR & PSU leads.  Bulky ?  yes;  pretty ? no;  but do they work ?   Y E S  !`
                   
                  Beer-cans soldered together make FB 40-metre verticals.  In a month,  I could build a 4-square array,  if I had the backyard...
                   
                  Sorry to introduce "Scrap-yard Corner" into this discussion.  Now,  if I could find a use for CDs from magazines...
                   
                  73 de Mort,  SV5/G2JL
                • k4oso@aol.com
                  A short while ago, KB4QQJ, Randy, spoke of an ingenious way to retrieve small parts from the carpet. He simply places an old pantyhose over the vacuum cleaner
                  Message 8 of 9 , Oct 9, 2011
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                    A short while ago, KB4QQJ, Randy, spoke of an ingenious way to retrieve small parts from the carpet.  He simply places an old pantyhose over the vacuum cleaner nozzle and goes at it.  The part will be picked up, but caught by the pantyhose.  Easy!!@
                    73, Milt k4oso
                     
                    In a message dated 10/9/2011 10:14:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wz4cw@... writes:

                    Bill-

                       I lost a J-38 terminal pin in the carpet-  I could guess about where it might be-  I was able to retrieve it by using a "refrigerator magnet"-  That might work for your lost spring?

                    73     Carl,  WZ4CW,  SKCC 918,  FISTS 13491

                     
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