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Re: Missing name plates

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  • William
    Well, right now on ebay there is a 1912 orginal, an original deluxe, an orginal standard and a #4 blue racer all without name plates. None of them were
    Message 1 of 9 , Sep 7, 2011
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      Well, right now on ebay there is a 1912 orginal, an original deluxe, an orginal standard and a #4 blue racer all without name plates. None of them were Lightnings or J36's.
      Your comments about clones is interesting. The 1912 bug looks good and has a serial number stamped on the damper. But who knows, maybe it's a clinker.

      Bill,WV1N

      --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Maas" <just.one.hill@...> wrote:
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      > Not wure what you are referring to. I have not seen a large number of Vibroplex keys without plates. Yes, some of the recent keys had stick-on nameplates, but doubt if that is what you mean. No, I haven't seen any significant number of new bugs with old plates, and further, doing that would be absolutely obvious to any collector, and would not enhance value. In fact, old keys unless a rare model aren't valuable anyway.
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      > Most Vibroplex keys missing plates aren't Vibroplex keys. One frequent candidate is the Lionel J-36 from WW II. 37,000 of these were made, they are extremely common, there is almost always several for sale at any given time, and I have no idea why anyone would pay more than a few dollars for one. They never had a Vibroplex style plate. They had a celluloid piece of black plastic the UV'd and shrivelled up, held on by five pins, easily recognizable on a Lightning-like bug.
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      > During the early days there were clones, we're talking nineteen-teens here. Such clones were illegal and Vibroplex got Western union to outlaw them on the line, hence the plates were removed and thrown away. Vibroplex made users of them buy a JE Albright name plate before they could be used on the line.
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      > Later after the patents ran out, late twenties, Speed-X produced similar keys, which were not Vibroplex, without labels.
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      > nearly all keys I see without labels fall into one of the above catagories, though recently there were two Shwaplex keys without lables, those are actually rare, interesting to some collectors, though I don't know why since they are not much different.
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      > Perhaps, hope, something here might have been helpful?
      >
      > 73, Fred - kt5x
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      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: William
      > To: cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:36 PM
      > Subject: [cw_bugs] Missing name plates
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      > Lately I have been looking at the vibroplexes for sale on ebay and I have noticed a large number of them are missing the vibroplex name plates.
      > Most of these plates are held on with pins that are unlikely to fall out by themselves. Does anyone have an idea what happens to these things? Are older plates put on newer bugs to increase their collectable value?
      > Bill,WV1N
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