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  • Troy
    Mort, I appreciate the photo! Also, assuming I see your Lightning to the far right of the keyboard, it would appear that the plastics are the same color and
    Message 1 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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      Mort,
       
       I appreciate the photo! Also, assuming I see your Lightning to the far right of the keyboard, it would appear that the plastics are the same color and shape as this bug. I just took all the parts out of my little ultrasonic cleaner and they look nearly new. So, the problem is what to do with the base.
       
      73,
      Troy, W6HV
      From: G2JL
      Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 2:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

      GE OM !
       
      I bought a new Lighting Bug,  serial # 209959 about 1960.  It had a chromium plated base,  but it looked as if it had been sawn off a large 3 x 6 inch iron bar by a drunken blind idiot.  About 1970,  I dismantled it & removed the base & gave it to a friend who had a machine-shop at his work place,  the Metal Box Company.  He offered to get it ground flat, polished & plated.  The factory burnt down as a result of arson by a disaffected ex-employee !  My key-base was lost.
       
      So,  I drew up a sketch and had a base made, for money alone,  which is far superior to the original.  It was before the Internet,  or the book on Vibroplexes I now have,  so I put the label in the wrong place.
       
      One day soon,  it will baffle collectors !
       
      Here you can see it;  my picture is on QRZ.com,  too.  The enclosed one is more recent.  U see my shack was not so tidy,  this time.  A tidy shack shows a tidy mind;  most peoples are empty,  and boring...
       
      73 de Mort,  G2JL73 de Mort,  G2JL
       
    • k4oso@aol.com
      Troy, Its a simple matter to have the base rechromed. I took a Blue Racer Deluxe to a local plater and he only charged me 30 US Dollars to strip and rechrome
      Message 2 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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        Troy,
        Its a simple matter to have the base rechromed.  I took a Blue Racer Deluxe to a local plater and he only charged me 30 US Dollars to strip and rechrome the base, mainframe, and damper.  I assume similar services are available in your area. 
        73, Milt k4oso
         
        In a message dated 2/24/2010 6:39:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, w6hv@... writes:
        Mort,
         
         I appreciate the photo! Also, assuming I see your Lightning to the far right of the keyboard, it would appear that the plastics are the same color and shape as this bug. I just took all the parts out of my little ultrasonic cleaner and they look nearly new. So, the problem is what to do with the base.
         
        73,
        Troy, W6HV
        From: G2JL
         
      • Troy
        Mort, Thanks. I just checked and found a plating company in the next town (about 25 miles away) so can check with them. I only need the base re-plated. 73,
        Message 3 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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          Mort,
           Thanks. I just checked and found a plating company in the next town (about 25 miles away) so can check with them. I only need the base re-plated.
          73, Troy, W6HV
          From: k4oso@...
          Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:47 PM
          Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

          Troy,
          Its a simple matter to have the base rechromed.  I took a Blue Racer Deluxe to a local plater and he only charged me 30 US Dollars to strip and rechrome the base, mainframe, and damper.  I assume similar services are available in your area. 
          73, Milt k4oso
           
        • k4oso@aol.com
          You re welcome, Troy. The name here is Milt. 73 Milt k4oso In a message dated 2/24/2010 6:57:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, w6hv@verizon.net writes: Mort,
          Message 4 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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            You're welcome, Troy.  The name here is Milt.
            73 Milt k4oso
             
            In a message dated 2/24/2010 6:57:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, w6hv@... writes:
            Mort,
             Thanks. I just checked and found a plating company in the next town (about 25 miles away) so can check with them. I only need the base re-plated.
            73, Troy, W6HV
             
          • Troy
            Milt! Good grief. I apologize! Old age doesn t seem to agree with me. 73, Troy, W6HV From: k4oso@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:38 PM To:
            Message 5 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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              Milt! Good grief. I apologize! Old age doesn't seem to agree with me.
              73,
              Troy, W6HV
              From: k4oso@...
              Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:38 PM
              Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

              You're welcome, Troy.  The name here is Milt.
              73 Milt k4oso
               
            • w9ya
              Hey Troy and the gang; I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ?? Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present
              Message 6 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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                Hey Troy and the gang;
                 
                  
                I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                 
                Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.

                 

                Vy 73 de;
                - Bob
                w9ya
                 
                 
                 
                On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                Troy, W6HV

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                From: <w6hv@...>
                Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                photos on the Vibroplex site?

                I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                appreciated.

                73,
                Troy, W6HV



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              • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
                The Deluxe Vibroplex keys had red finger pieces and two jewels in the pivot - upper and lower bearings - most (the exception was during WW2 where the bases
                Message 7 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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                  The Deluxe Vibroplex keys had red finger pieces and two jewels in the pivot - upper and lower bearings - most (the exception was during WW2 where the bases were painted) had chrome bases.

                  The following keys came in Deluxe models:  Original, Lightning Bug, Blue Racer.
                  The following keys came only in non-jeweled models:  Zephyr and Champion.
                  The following keys only came in Deluxe finish with jeweled movement and special adjustable mainspring - the Presentation mode
                  Originals could be ordered on three different size bases - 3.5 inch bases (stadard), 3.0 inch (the size of the Zephyr and Martin Junior) and 2.5 inch (size of the Blue Raceer).
                  All keys - with the exception of the Champion could be ordered in left handed versions - at least I've never seen a lefty Champion.

                  All models except for Original have been discontinued - but the Original comes in two additional finishes now - presentation finish and gold finish.
                  There is also an Original on a small base - Blue Racer 2000 Original key.

                  73

                  David N1EA

                  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:27 PM, <w6hv@...> wrote:
                  I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                  The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the photos on the Vibroplex site?

                  I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

                  73,
                  Troy, W6HV



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                • Troy
                  After cleaning all parts in a small ultrasonic cleaner, this bug doesn t appear to have the jewels. The red finger pieces and the red knob on the shorting
                  Message 8 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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                    After cleaning all parts in a small ultrasonic cleaner, this bug doesn't appear to have the jewels. The red finger pieces and the red knob on the shorting switch are there. Thanks for the info, David; your email saved for future reference.
                     
                    Troy, W6HV
                    Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:03 PM
                    Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape


                    The Deluxe Vibroplex keys had red finger pieces and two jewels in the pivot - upper and lower bearings - most (the exception was during WW2 where the bases were painted) had chrome bases.

                    The following keys came in Deluxe models:  Original, Lightning Bug, Blue Racer.
                    The following keys came only in non-jeweled models:  Zephyr and Champion.
                    The following keys only came in Deluxe finish with jeweled movement and special adjustable mainspring - the Presentation mode
                    Originals could be ordered on three different size bases - 3.5 inch bases (stadard), 3.0 inch (the size of the Zephyr and Martin Junior) and 2.5 inch (size of the Blue Raceer).
                    All keys - with the exception of the Champion could be ordered in left handed versions - at least I've never seen a lefty Champion.

                    All models except for Original have been discontinued - but the Original comes in two additional finishes now - presentation finish and gold finish.
                    There is also an Original on a small base - Blue Racer 2000 Original key.

                    73

                    David N1EA
                  • Troy
                    OK, Bob. I wasn t sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP
                    Message 9 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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                      OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site ( http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                       
                      Troy, W6HV
                      From: w9ya
                      Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                      Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                      Hey Troy and the gang;
                       
                        
                      I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                       
                      Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.


                       

                      Vy 73 de;
                      - Bob
                      w9ya
                       
                       
                       
                      On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                      I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                      are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                      Troy, W6HV

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                      From: <w6hv@...>
                      Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                      To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                      Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                      I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                      been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                      curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                      area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                      The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                      any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                      manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                      photos on the Vibroplex site?

                      I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                      appreciated.

                      73,
                      Troy, W6HV



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                    • w9ya
                      Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came WITHOUT jeweled
                      Message 10 of 21 , Feb 24, 2010
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                        Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came WITHOUT jeweled bearings. Most notably the #6s (lightning bugs)........ One of the ore interesting things about collecting bugs is the variations. I also have a deluxe/chromed #6 - lightning bug without jeweled bearings dated to around 1942.

                        Enjoy your bug and be sure to look up David's excellent method for restoring the contacts and cleaning the bug to get maximum pleasure from your 'new' toy.

                        Vy 73 de

                        - Bob
                        w9ya




                        On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:


                        OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site ( http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                         
                        Troy, W6HV
                        From: w9ya
                        Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                        Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                        Hey Troy and the gang;
                         
                          
                        I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                         
                        Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.


                         

                        Vy 73 de;
                        - Bob
                        w9ya
                         
                         
                         
                        On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                        I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                        are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                        Troy, W6HV

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                        From: <w6hv@...>
                        Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                        To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                        Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                        I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                        been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                        curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                        area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                        The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                        any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                        manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                        photos on the Vibroplex site?

                        I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                        appreciated.

                        73,
                        Troy, W6HV



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                      • john@morsemad.com
                        Quite a few versions of the Vibroplex bugs can be seen on my web site at: http://WWW.morsemad.com/vib.htm   John / G0RDO http://www.morsemad.com
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                          Quite a few versions of the Vibroplex bugs can be seen on my web site at:
                          http://WWW.morsemad.com/vib.htm



                           

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                        • ke5pwleric
                          I Have a 1940 Deluxe Lightning Or the No6, it has red paddles, and no jeweled movements. It s signed and dated on the bottom by Howard S. Weed 1940.. I was
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                            I Have a 1940 Deluxe Lightning Or the No6, it has red paddles, and no jeweled movements. It's signed and dated on the bottom by Howard S. Weed 1940.. I was told that he was a cw op in the navy.

                            --- In cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com, w9ya <w9ya@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while
                            > (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came
                            > WITHOUT jeweled bearings. Most notably the #6s (lightning bugs)........ One
                            > of the ore interesting things about collecting bugs is the variations. I
                            > also have a deluxe/chromed #6 - lightning bug without jeweled bearings dated
                            > to around 1942.
                            >
                            > Enjoy your bug and be sure to look up David's excellent method for restoring
                            > the contacts and cleaning the bug to get maximum pleasure from your 'new'
                            > toy.
                            >
                            > Vy 73 de
                            >
                            > - Bob
                            > w9ya
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version.
                            > > David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website
                            > > and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site (
                            > > http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                            > >
                            > > Troy, W6HV
                            > >
                            > > *From:* w9ya <w9ya@...>
                            > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                            > > *To:* cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com
                            > > *Subject:* Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape
                            > >
                            > > Hey Troy and the gang;
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                            > >
                            > > Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on
                            > > that vintage bug with it's chromed base.
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > Vy 73 de;
                            > > - Bob
                            > > w9ya
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > >> I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece,
                            > >> etc.,
                            > >> are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.
                            > >>
                            > >> Troy, W6HV
                            > >>
                            > >> --------------------------------------------------
                            > >> From: <w6hv@...>
                            > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                            > >> To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                            > >> Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape
                            > >>
                            > >> I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It
                            > >> had
                            > >> been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                            > >> curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                            > >> area, strictly relying on those of you that are!
                            > >>
                            > >> The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                            > >> any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                            > >> manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                            > >> photos on the Vibroplex site?
                            > >>
                            > >> I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                            > >> appreciated.
                            > >>
                            > >> 73,
                            > >> Troy, W6HV
                            > >>
                            > >>
                            > >>
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                          • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
                            Bob, I believe the #6 that you have that you have has nickel plating and has black finger pieces, doesn t it? The deluxe bugs were the jeweled movements. Going
                            Message 13 of 21 , Feb 25, 2010
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                              Bob,

                              I believe the #6 that you have that you have has nickel plating and has black finger pieces, doesn't it?

                              The deluxe bugs were the jeweled movements.

                              Going back even into the 19-teens, bugs were offered with painted bases or nickel plated bases.  The top parts were also nickel plated.

                              The Deluxe was not just a finish as it is now, it was a different model of the bug.  The model included three things - man-made jeweled movement on the main trunnion lever, and changes in finish by using red finger pieces and chrome base.  During WW2 the base was usually painted due to restrictions on the use of chrome which could not be used for "decorative parts only"   - the base was chromed just for looks, so it wasn't allowed.

                              73

                              DR

                              On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, w9ya <w9ya@...> wrote:


                              Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came WITHOUT jeweled bearings. Most notably the #6s (lightning bugs)........ One of the ore interesting things about collecting bugs is the variations. I also have a deluxe/chromed #6 - lightning bug without jeweled bearings dated to around 1942.

                              Enjoy your bug and be sure to look up David's excellent method for restoring the contacts and cleaning the bug to get maximum pleasure from your 'new' toy.


                              Vy 73 de

                              - Bob
                              w9ya




                              On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:


                              OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site ( http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                               
                              Troy, W6HV
                              From: w9ya
                              Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                              Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                              Hey Troy and the gang;
                               
                                
                              I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                               
                              Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.


                               

                              Vy 73 de;
                              - Bob
                              w9ya
                               
                               
                               
                              On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                              I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                              are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                              Troy, W6HV

                              --------------------------------------------------
                              From: <w6hv@...>
                              Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                              To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                              Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                              I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                              been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                              curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                              area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                              The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                              any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                              manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                              photos on the Vibroplex site?

                              I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                              appreciated.

                              73,
                              Troy, W6HV



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                            • w9ya
                              Uh... nope.....it s chromed David, and it has red parts and it APPEARS to have no jewels. I misspoke earlier however, as the FIRST jeweled bearings were
                              Message 14 of 21 , Feb 25, 2010
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                                Uh... nope.....it's chromed David, and it has red parts and it APPEARS to have no jewels. I misspoke earlier however, as the FIRST jeweled bearings were pressed into the regular stems and unless you take them apart, they LOOK JUST LIKE they are the regular non-jeweled screws. (Which in fact they are, as the jewels appear to be pressed into these regular screws.)
                                 
                                I also have other Vibroplexes from the same (and other) era(s) that are nickle plated so I aware of that difference and I also have some obviously fully chromed bugs, amongst them a Blue Racer, that also doesn't have the later blindscrew-jeweled parts. The Blue Racer oddly is post WW2 while the #6's built with jewels and slotted screw-stems seem to be dated somewhat earlier in the forties.
                                 
                                While not going into such dating detail, this jewels in slotted stemmed (regular) screws is covered on page 79 of the French book. (Third edition)
                                 
                                Anyways, thanks for asking and helping me to correct my mea-culpa on the APPEARANCE of non-jeweled regular slotted screw stems which in fact DO contain 'jewels' !
                                 
                                Vy 73;
                                 
                                - Bob
                                w9ya
                                 
                                 
                                 
                                On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:27 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@...> wrote:


                                Bob,

                                I believe the #6 that you have that you have has nickel plating and has black finger pieces, doesn't it?

                                The deluxe bugs were the jeweled movements.

                                Going back even into the 19-teens, bugs were offered with painted bases or nickel plated bases.  The top parts were also nickel plated.

                                The Deluxe was not just a finish as it is now, it was a different model of the bug.  The model included three things - man-made jeweled movement on the main trunnion lever, and changes in finish by using red finger pieces and chrome base.  During WW2 the base was usually painted due to restrictions on the use of chrome which could not be used for "decorative parts only"   - the base was chromed just for looks, so it wasn't allowed.

                                73

                                DR


                                On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM, w9ya <w9ya@...> wrote:


                                Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came WITHOUT jeweled bearings. Most notably the #6s (lightning bugs)........ One of the ore interesting things about collecting bugs is the variations. I also have a deluxe/chromed #6 - lightning bug without jeweled bearings dated to around 1942.

                                Enjoy your bug and be sure to look up David's excellent method for restoring the contacts and cleaning the bug to get maximum pleasure from your 'new' toy.


                                Vy 73 de

                                - Bob
                                w9ya




                                On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:


                                OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site ( http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                                 
                                Troy, W6HV
                                From: w9ya
                                Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                                Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                                Hey Troy and the gang;
                                 
                                  
                                I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                                 
                                Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.


                                 

                                Vy 73 de;
                                - Bob
                                w9ya
                                 
                                 
                                 
                                On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                                I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                                are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                                Troy, W6HV

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                                From: <w6hv@...>
                                Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                                To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                                Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                                I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                                been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                                curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                                area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                                The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                                any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                                manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                                photos on the Vibroplex site?

                                I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                                appreciated.

                                73,
                                Troy, W6HV



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                              • Troy
                                I ve been very interested in the comments concerning the various configurations of the Lightning. I m now reasonably sure that I have a deluxe #6. However, I
                                Message 15 of 21 , Feb 25, 2010
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                                  I've been very interested in the comments concerning the various configurations of the Lightning. I'm now reasonably sure that I have a deluxe #6. However, I rechecked the trunion under my lighted magnifier and did not see any sign of a jeweled bearing.
                                   
                                  Now I have two deluxe Blue Racers c1959 and c1998, a Champion c1972, a deluxe Original c1963, and a standard Original c1976, and a Lightning c1946. No Zephyr though.
                                   
                                  Thanks to all for the interesting info!
                                  73,
                                  Troy, W6HV
                                   
                                   
                                  From: w9ya
                                  Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:57 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                                  Yes, sure thing Troy. Um.... one other thing to note; for a while (primarily) during the forties there were various deluxe models that came WITHOUT jeweled bearings. Most notably the #6s (lightning bugs)........ One of the ore interesting things about collecting bugs is the variations. I also have a deluxe/chromed #6 - lightning bug without jeweled bearings dated to around 1942.

                                  Enjoy your bug and be sure to look up David's excellent method for restoring the contacts and cleaning the bug to get maximum pleasure from your 'new' toy.

                                  Vy 73 de

                                  - Bob
                                  w9ya




                                  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:


                                  OK, Bob. I wasn't sure that the Lightning came in the Deluxe version. David, N1EA, indicated that they did. I had checked the Vibroplex website and the W1TP Telegraph & Scientific Instrument Museums site ( http://www.w1tp.com/telegraph.html ) and only saw the standard version.
                                   
                                  Troy, W6HV
                                  From: w9ya
                                  Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:42 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                                  Hey Troy and the gang;
                                   
                                    
                                  I am not sure if this a question like your original message or ??
                                   
                                  Um, the red pieces are correct for both color and shape when present on that vintage bug with it's chromed base.


                                   

                                  Vy 73 de;
                                  - Bob
                                  w9ya
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Troy <w6hv@...> wrote:
                                  I also forgot to mention that the usual black triangular thumb piece, etc.,
                                  are not on the bug. Instead, the newer oval red pieces are present.

                                  Troy, W6HV

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                                  From: <w6hv@...>
                                  Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:27 PM
                                  To: <cw_bugs@yahoogroups.com>
                                  Subject: [cw_bugs] Lightning Vibroplex in bad shape

                                  I just received an early c1946 Lightning by Vibroplex from a friend. It had
                                  been stored for many years and is in dire need of cleaning. What I am
                                  curious about is the base finish. I am absolutely not an expert in this
                                  area, strictly relying on those of you that are!

                                  The base has a chromed finish, albeit in very poor condition. I can't find
                                  any reference to that sort of base being used for the Lightning. Were they
                                  manufactured that way, as well as the typical black finish shown in the
                                  photos on the Vibroplex site?

                                  I would like to restore the old critter. Any suggestions would be
                                  appreciated.

                                  73,
                                  Troy, W6HV



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                                • D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
                                  The jeweled bearings currently are different in two ways: The cups have the cup made from ruby or sapphire (synthetic), and the pins are rounded. The regular
                                  Message 16 of 21 , Feb 25, 2010
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                                    The jeweled bearings currently are different in two ways:  The cups have the cup made from ruby or sapphire (synthetic), and the pins are rounded.  The regular bearings have sharp pins on the screw  ends.  The jeweled bearings look like a person's elbow.  The regular bearings fit inside a hollowed out screw while the jeweled  bearings the elbow fits against the cup with the jewel on it.  Only one half of the bearing is a jewel the other part is an elbow shaped piece of metal.  Two jeweled cups one at the top, one at the bottom.

                                    73

                                    DR
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