Re: [XTalk] Matthew 18:23-35//Luke 16:1-8: a common oral tradition? An Oral Q?
- Bob Schacht wrote:
>Suppose at the punchline level, the moral ofThe punchline of The Shrewd Manager seems more like,
>the story was, "Show mercy, and you will receive
>mercy; but if you demand justice, that is what you
>will get." Both stories could be generated from
>this same principle.
"Show mercy and you will come out ahead". The master
reinstates his manager neither out of charity nor
mercy (on the contrary, he **praises** the manager for
his shrewd tactic), but rather because the manager
made him look good. Your punchline does apply to The
Unmerciful Servant -- at least, as it stands in its
Matthean context. Originally, that story's punchline
may have been a bit more complex.
>I am suggesting that the common core was a"Mercy" figures into The Shrewd Manager only when the
>teaching on Mercy vs. Justice.
manager forgives part of the bills owed by the
debtors. He may have done this out of
self-preservation as much as charity.
>...unfortunately for my thesis, Luke does not endthat
>with a conclusion about mercy, but with a conclusion
>about shrewdness (phronimos). And we cannot claim
>shrewdness is one of Luke's editorial propensities...Exactly.
Loren Rosson III
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- At 04:06 AM 10/1/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Bob Schacht wrote:Loren,
> >Suppose at the punchline level, the moral of
> >the story was, "Show mercy, and you will receive
> >mercy; but if you demand justice, that is what you
> >will get." Both stories could be generated from
> >this same principle.
>The punchline of The Shrewd Manager seems more like,
>"Show mercy and you will come out ahead". ...
We're talking past each other, because I'm arguing from a Q-like
hypothetical source document that might lie behind the Matthean and Lukan
texts, whereas you are arguing only from the Lukan text.
I don't think I have much chance of convincing anyone about that, though,
and my case is based more on whimsy than solid evidence, so I won't pursue
it further, unless I receive some additional source of inspiration. :-)
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