Re: [XTalk] the beatitudes
- At 10:56 AM 9/17/01 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm curious how both this list and how the Jesus Seminar rate theSteve,
>authenticity of the beatitudes (presumably Luke's version being the
You really oughta get your own copy of The Five Gospels, so you can answer
questions like this for yourself. In T5G on p. 292-3, they provide a
comparison table of Luke 6:20-26, Matthew 5:3-12 and GThomas 54; 68-69. The
most authentic of the beatitudes are Luke 6:20-21 (red!)//Matthew 5:3,4,6
(pink), so yes, they regard the Lukan version as more original and,
furthermore, as among the reddest of the red But they also regard GThomas
54 as more original (red) than Matt 5:3.
>Did Jesus teach something very much like this or is this an early "Q"Because Luke 6:20 is among the reddest of the red, the credit goes to
>sermon created by that "community" and eventually ascribed to Jesus?
Jesus, and not to Q:
"Jesus almost certainly formulated the first three congratulations [i.e.,
beatitudes] in their Lukan version-- concerning the poor, the hungry and
the persecuted." (T5G, p. 138)
For the details, see these and adjacent pages in T5G. I am inclined to
agree that at least 3 of the beatitudes are authentic, and illustrate a
type of discourse common in Jesus' speech.
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