On Sun, 01 Jul 2001 12:35:54 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org
> John Lupia wrote:
> > By the way, both of these scientists found ancient pollen of
> > Gundelia tournefortii on the Holy Shroud of Turin which they consider
> > apodictic evidence of its authenticity.
> > Peace in Christ,
> > John
> > <><
> So, now we have "apodictic" evidence of its authenticity, huh? I guess
> we can place this alongside the "apodictic" evidence of its
> inauthenticity, i.e., the independent C14 datings that place it
> unambiguously in the middle ages, a time notorious for the production of
> fake relics and pilgrimages to the Holy land. I don't suppose some of
> those many pilgims could have inadvertently picked up any pollen and
> "redeposited" it on the shroud ...?
I'm sure you don't mean to imply that your opinion, which you appear to have
made without even having read their reports, outweighs those of Drs. Danin
and Baruch. I was not looking for an argument. I was only mentioning as an
aside something that two world class scientists (both devout Jews by the
way) found as a scientific conclusion within their area of specialization.
BTW both Danin and Baruch investigated this (medieval or later
contamination) as a possibility and found from the evidence it was
overwhelmingly impossible. I recommend reading their scientific reports if
you are truly interested. After all for those seriously pursuing the the
archaeological question of seed and harvest yields 2,000 years ago in
Palestine, your going to have to read Danin and Baruch anyway since there is
no one on earth who is a greater authority than them on the subject.
Peace in Christ,
John N. Lupia
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