Re: [XTalk] seminal essays/books in Historical Jesus Reserach
- At 01:29 PM 3/29/01 -0600, Jeffrey B. Gibson wrote:
>To all List Members,This itself is a pretty good anthology.
>Recently a book has been published entitled _The Historical Jesus Quest_
>which, as its subtitle (_Landmarks in the Search for the Jesus of
>History_ is a collection of excerpts from works on the HJ which the
>book's editor, Gregory W. Dawes, considers to be "seminal" in Jesus
>studies over the last two hundred years. Authors excerpted are Spinoza
>(Tractatus T-P), E. Troeltch (Historical and Dogmatic Method in
>Theology), S. Reimarus (Fragments) , D.F. Strauss (LJCE), W. Wrede
>(Messianic Secret), A. Ritschl (Instruction in the Christian Religion),
>J. Weiss (Jesus' Proclamation of the KoG), A. Schweitzer (mystery of the
>KoG, My Life and Thought), M. Kahler (So Called HJ ...), R. Bultmann
>(Liberal Theology and the Latest Theological Movement), K. Barth (from
>the CD), E. Kaesemann (Problem of the HJ).
>My question is: if you could put together an anthology similar toFirst, you are asking, in essence, if Dawes' choices stand up (at least, to
>Dawes', that is to say, an anthology of excerpts from wht you consider
>to be seminal/landmark HJ studies, what would you include?
>In other words, what do you consider to be the most important HJ works
>in the last 200 years?
us.) I'd certainly keep S. Reimarus (Fragments) , D.F. Strauss (LJCE), W.
Wrede (Messianic Secret), J. Weiss (Jesus' Proclamation of the KoG), A.
Schweitzer (mystery of the KoG, My Life and Thought), M. Kahler (So
Called HJ ...), R. Bultmann (Liberal Theology and the Latest Theological
Movement), and E. Kaesemann (Problem of the HJ), but I don't know about the
others (there are so many other [and better?] possibilities to choose
from), and I might second-guess on some of these choices. For example, I'd
perhaps expand the Schweitzer, and maybe change the Bultmann selection to
something from the first 200 pages of his History of the Synoptic Tradition.
Any anthology would need something about the Jesus Seminar. Since I take it
that you are ruling out book-length works, which would rule out The Five
Gospels, or The Acts of Jesus, I'd at least include the Introduction from
T5G or, alternatively, Robert Funk's Story of the Jesus Seminar, pp.
xiii-xix in The Gospel of Mark: Red Letter Edition, which he edited.
However, you do include "books" in the subject line, so I wonder...?
Most anthologies over-emphasize the synoptics, so I'd include something
like Fortna's "Signs/Semeia Source," in ABD 6:18-22 (1992).
You'd also have to include one of the significant discussions of GThomas,
such as chapter 9 (The Gospel of Thomas and the Historical Jesus) from
Patterson's book, The Gospel of Thomas and Jesus (1993).
A general chapter with a literature review of significant sources might be
helpful, such as pp. 13-27 of Chapter 1, plus Chapter 2 (Heavy Traffic on
the Wredebahn) in N.T. Wright's Jesus and the Victory of God, or better yet
the version that appeared in ABD 3:796-802 under the heading "Quest for the
Historical Jesus". Alternatively perhaps Robinson's The New Quest for the
Then you probably oughta have something on Jesus in Q, either from
Horsley's "Q and Jesus: Assumptions, approaches, and analyses" (Semeia
55) or from Mack's The Lost Gospel (1993) (or perhaps from Mack's
article on "Q and a Cynic-like Jesus" in Arnal & Desjardins' Whose
Historical Jesus?)-- although Mack's "The Kingdom Sayings in Mark"
(Foundations and Facets Forum 3, 1987) may have been a more influential
work of his to include. Are you looking for influence as an important
criterion? Since you ask for "seminal essays" I gather that Mack's "Q and a
Cynic-like Jesus" wouldn't qualify, but his "The Kingdom Sayings in Mark"
Also, selections from the "Jesus the _______" books might be appropriate,
Jesus the Jew (Vermes)
Jesus the Healer (Davies)
Jesus the Cynic (Mack or Downing)
Jesus the Teacher (e.g. Perrin's Rediscovering the Teaching of Jesus)
Jesus the Prophet (Kaylor?)
Jesus the Magician (Morton Smith)
I need some help with the above from others on the list who have some of
the books that I don't have. Whenever I wrote "A selection from...", I
invite others to supply their recommendations on the details of the
selection (what chapter? what pages? what is the corresponding title of
I hope this helps. In the above, I am aiming partly for covering as many
bases as possible, while trying to keep in mind the most influential works.
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