Jews and Patriarchs
- At 04:26 PM 2/20/01 +0100, Karel Hanhart wrote:
>...The problem with the evidence from the Fathers is the fact that theyWell, I'm not so sure. Richard Anderson wrote on another list:
>were not Jews. By then the fall of Jerusalem was approached in an
>anti-judaic manner, as punishment by God. To John Mark and his Judean
>readers. The Roman conquest and the destruction of the temple was a
>disaster that had come over them as over all Judeans that cried out for a
>theodice. The open tomb ending was Mark's answer. To the Fathers the
>destruction of the temple did not touch them existentially. To them it was
>'simply' a divine
>confirmation of their christology and ecclesiology, which was denied in
>the synagogue. The anti-judaism of the Church Fathers has come to the fore
>in many publications and need not be repeated here. ...
>In my paper Rodney Stark and the Ending of Acts, available on my web page,Now, to be sure, Anderson and Stark are referring to the hoi polloi, not
>Rodney Stark, using his solid background in the sociology of religion, has
>shown that the mission to the Jews probably succeeded.(3) Furthermore, the
>principle of cultural continuity and the principle that 'Social movement
>grow much faster when they spread through social network'(4) does provide a
>partial explanation for the explosive growth of Christianity. The network
>growth rate exhibited by Christianity has been confirmed by the Mormon
>example.(5) Stark has shown that 'Christianity offered twice as much
>cultural continuity to the Hellenized Jews as to Gentiles.'(6) Stark stated,
>and his conclusion is well documented, 'that not only was it the Jews of the
>diaspora who provided the initial basis for the church growth during the
>first and early second centuries, but that Jews continued as a significant
>source of Christian converts until at least as late as the fourth century
>and that Jewish Christianity was still significant in the fifth century.'(7)
>fn3: Rodney Stark, The Rise of Christianity, (Princeton 1996), 49-71.
>fn4: Stark, 55.
>fn5: Stark, 18, 56.
>fn6: Stark, 59.
>fn6: Stark, 49.
>Daniel Boyarin, Dying for God said that there were significant intercultural
>border crossings between Christianity and Judaism up until the 5th century
>essentially agreeing with Rodney Stark without mentioning him and using
>However, I think you would need to read Danielou, The Theology of Jewish
>Christianity, and other works on Jewish Christianity to obtain answers to
>some of your specific questions....
>Richard H. Anderson
the Fathers. Nevertheless, it seems to me like you have turned "significant
border crossings" into a chasm, and have thereby have perhaps exaggerated
Robert M. Schacht, Ph.D.
Northern Arizona University
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