Mark's attitude towards Peter
- At 01:35 AM 1/14/01 +0100, Jan Sammer wrote:
>... Had Mark's purpose been to turn Peter into a villain, he would surelyI don't think that Weeden's extensively posted thesis about GMark said
>have chosen more effective ways.
that Mark's purpose was to turn Peter into a villain, and I don't think
anyone's really arguing that.
>Perhaps Peter's reputation was such that Mark was unable to attack PeterThis sounds closer to Weeden's thesis, as I understand it.
>directly, and could only afford to put a negative spin on some of his
>But on balance it is apparent that Mark did not wish to make a
>frontal attack on Peter, though he did want to take him to task for his
>For reasons I have explained in a previous message, it wouldCan you remind me of the date of this message? And is your analysis based
>appear that the Mark's real target was James the Just. The most effective
>way to reduce James' authority was to refer to him as little as possible,
>and if at all, in a collective manner, as one of the members of Jesus
>family, whom Jesus himself rejected.
on evidence in GMark itself, or on external evidence? How do you refute
Weeden's evidence that Peter was the target? (It is not sufficient to
merely express the opinion that Mark's target was someone else.)
> I do agree that Mark has an anti-Petrine spin, but only to the extentPeter was also the man in the middle: with James and the circumcision party
> necessary for his pro-Pauline bias. I would suggest that it is Peter's
> wavering on the Gentile mission that is held up to ridicule and in a way
> excused by pointing to Peter's failings on previous occasions. Peter is
> on the right side (i.e., Paul's side), but sometimes his courage fails him.
on his right, and Paul on his left, he was in a difficult spot: He could
never satisfy one without bringing scorn from the other. So he gets hit in
various ways from both sides.
> Furthermore, (Mark seems to be implying) Peter's interpretations ofPeter is hardly unique among the disciples in this respect.
> Jesus' message are not necessarily authoritative, because on many
> occasions Peter had failed to understand the master's meaning.
>But all in all, Peter was one of the inner circle and Jesus' rebukes ofI'd like to see more evidence to support your opinions. If you've presented
>him not made in a hostile spirit. In sum, as far as Mark is concerned,
>Peter was an important part of the gentile mission and a useful ally
>against James, though not beyond criticism and not to be taken at his word.
the *evidence* before, I'd appreciate learning the date(s) of your post(s).
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