Re: [XTalk] Where Is Paul in the Gospels?
- Ron Price wrote:
> In reply to Howard's question:Seems to me that this assumes what needs to be proven, namely that Jesus is
> >> Is Pauline theology represented in Q?
> I wrote:
> >> Yes, it is in Q as normally understood. Jesus is presented as the Son
> >> of God in the Temptation story (Matt 4:1-11) and in Jesus' Thanksgiving
> >> (Matt 11:25-27).
> William Arnal replied:
> >No, Pauline theology is absolutely NOT represented in Q.
> I trust you would agree that Matt 11:25-27 (=Q10:21-22), if not also
> Matt 4:1-11 (=Q4:1-13), implies a belief in Jesus as the unique Son of
> God. My contention is that this belief originated with Paul. Who else
> amongst the early followers of Jesus had the boldness and the vision to
> cast aside Jewish inhibitions and invent such a breathtaking concept?
> But if Paul invented it, then clearly your "Q" contains Pauline
being proclaimed as the unique Son of God or that the title is being used by Q
(or by Paul) in a way that was never done before. But the application of the
title Son to Jesus in Q is, as all of the allusions in the testing account in
the Exodus/Deueteronomy/Numbers story of the post Exodus testing of God's son
Israel show, a way of claiming that Jesus is a recapitulation of "one" who
long before Jesus had been designated Son. For fuller explication, see B.
Gerhardsson, _The Testing of God's Son_ and my article "A New Turn on Turning
Stones to Bread: The Meaning of Q 4:3" in BR.
Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.)
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