[XTalk] Re: Jesus and Celibacy (was: Eunuchery for the sake of the kingdom of heaven)
- Jeff Gibson wrote:
>Nathan McGovern wrote:OK, you caught me. I made a bit of an overstatement. Actually, the
>> To touch back on the original subject of this thread, however, I think it
>> much more plausible that Jesus was celibate, or at least that he preached
>> celibacy. This would fit better with Jewish religious movements of the day
>> (especially the Essenes, which share many--though not all--characteristics
>> with early Christianity). That's why I wondered whether there is
>> linguistic backing for a claim that Matt. 19:11-12 goes back to Jesus.
>Er .. could you please tell me what Jewish religious movements
>with early Christianity besides the Essenes (if indeed even they advocated
>you claim, at least as a lifetime posture) emphasised/practiced/demanded
Essenes are the only group that we can be sure of advocating celibacy (and,
yes, I do maintain this claim based on War 2.8.13--I hope I'm not
misinterpreting it). There are other groups in the "seven Jewish
sects"--the ones that the Church Fathers can't agree on the identities
of--that may have advocated celibacy, but we can't know this for sure.
>Thanks, I'll check it out. I would like to point out, though, that the
>As to the question of Jesus being celibate, I would urge you to have a
>look at the
>book _Was Jesus Married?_ who not only shows that your claim about Jesus
>being in tune with Jewish religious movements of his day is unfounded, but
>pretty strong case that the picture of Jesus as celibate, let alone as
>celibacy, is extremely unlikely, has no basis in history, and is in fact a
>distortion of the truth.
issues of celibacy and marriage are technically different; just ask
Gandhiji (not meant to imply that the issues of *lifelong* celibacy and
marriage are different in Jesus' culture). Actually, I think that Jesus
may have been married to Mary Magdalene or some other woman.
Franklin and Marshall College