[XTalk] Faith or Works
- I am curious about the apparent controversy between the author of James and
Paul as exemplified by the following passages (incidentally I apologize if
my transliteration is not standard I'm just learning ancient greek):
2:8 th gar cariti este seswsmenoi dia pistews kai
touto ouk ex umwn qeou to dwron
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is
2:9 ouk ex ergwn ina mh tis kauchshtai
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2:24 orate oti ex ergwn dikaioutai anqrwpos kai ouk
ek pistews monon
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
As I see it the main question in my mind is the difference between
SESWSMENOI and DIKAIOUTAI. traditionally (or at least in the KJV) these are
translated respectively as "Saved" and "Justified". Are these translations
literal? What is the difference in connotation. I ask because if salvation
is different than justification, there may not be any real controversy aside
minor differences in the importance of works, however if one can equivocate
the two this seems to be more directly contradictory. What are the thoughts
of list members who are more conversant in ancient greek?
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