RE: [XTalk] Gospel of God
I am trying to understand what you said in your last posting about the
two secrets in Mark.
<<<The first secret in Mark is the Davidic mission of Jesus; it had to
secret from the public because the Romans were watching. Very plausible.
second secret in Mark is the divine nature and soteriological centrality
Jesus, and this secret is kept from people previously privy to the
secret, namely everybody: Jesus's crowds and his intimate circle.>>>
The two secrets are known to us because they are revealed in the Markan
narrative. I have no problem with the second secret. There are many
epiphanies that reveal the secret identity of Jesus. Besides, the Markan
Jesus is described as taking part in the revelation of this theology.
This is particularly clear in the predictions of the Passion and in what
pertains to the need for the disciples to follow in the steps of Jesus.
But this revelation was not made during the life of Jesus. It
corresponds to a specific stage (Pauline and post Pauline) in the
elaboration of Christology years after the death of Jesus.
I have a problem with the first secret, namely with its revelation. The
first time a connection is made between Jesus and David is in 10:47 and
48, where the blind man, Bartimaeus son of Timaeus, calls him 'son of
David.' The second one is in 11:10 (triumphal entrance to Jerusalem).
There is a problem with the historicity of what is revealed in those two
instances. Chances are these revelations are based on some post-Easter
In the Passion narrative, Jesus is called "the king of the Jews." Pilate
and the soldiers use this expression in 15:2, 9, 12 and 18. Add to this
the inscription on the cross (15:26) and the sarcastic remark: "Let the
Messiah, the King of Israel, come down from the cross now" (15:32). If
this language is to be considered historical, how did the enemies of
Jesus acquire this knowledge? If it is not, what could have been the
real reason why Jesus was crucified?
The problem with the Markan narrative is that it transforms the
historical events in two ways: by addition and by omission. The real
secret is perhaps in what it omits to say and remains unknown.
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Subject: Re: [XTalk] Gospel of God
- Joseph Codsi wrote:
> In the Passion narrative, Jesus is called "the king of the Jews." PilateJoseph,
> and the soldiers use this expression in 15:2, 9, 12 and 18. Add to this
> the inscription on the cross (15:26) and the sarcastic remark: "Let the
> Messiah, the King of Israel, come down from the cross now" (15:32). If
> this language is to be considered historical, how did the enemies of
> Jesus acquire this knowledge?
Jesus¹ symbolic enactment of the prophecy of Zech 9:9 attracted crowds (Mk
11:8-10). This would have come to the notice of the Roman authorities, who
would have enquired what the commotion was all about. Finding that the
person on the donkey was said to be a king (³Lo, your king comes to you
...²), and taking note of the crowds he had attracted, would probably have
been quite enough in the eyes of the authorities to have Jesus arrested as a
threat to Roman rule.
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