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Re: [XTalk] first modern scholar to note the shorter and longer forms of the LP

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  • Jack Kilmon
    ... From: Jeffrey B. Gibson To: biblical-studies Cc: Textual Criticism List
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 10, 2008
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      From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000@...>
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      Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:00 PM
      Subject: [XTalk] first modern scholar to note the shorter and longer forms
      of the LP


      > With apologies for cross posting:
      >
      > Today no one (save perhaps some KJV advocates) accepts the testimony of
      > the TR and the translations based upon it that text of the Lord's Prayer
      > as Luke gave it at Lk. 11:2-4 was basically, sans the doxology in Mt.
      > 6:14, the text of Mt. 6:1-14.
      >
      > But when did this change of view, this awareness that the LP has come
      > down to us in two forms/versions, occur? Who was the first modern
      > scholar to argue that the TR was wrong in its presentation of the text
      > of Lk 11:2-4? and that what Luke gave us was quite different from what
      > Matthew recorded? Anyone know?
      >
      > Jeffrey


      Two of the most notable have been Joachim Jeremias, Abba. Studien zur
      Neutestamentlichen Theologie und Zietgeschichte, 1966, Vandenhoeck &
      Ruprecht, Gottingen; and Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Gospel according to Luke,
      1981, 1985 Doubleday, Garden City, NY. The scholarly opinion is that the
      original version of the Lord’s Prayer was a short version, like Luke’s, but
      contained wording closer to that embedded in the expanded version of
      Matthew. The works of these scholars are summarized in John P. Meier’s "A
      Marginal Jew, rethinking the historical Jesus" Vol. 2, 1994, Doubleday, NY.


      Jack
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