Re: [XTalk] Funk in The Fourth R, January-February 1995, p.9
How much do you need? It's in a review of Luedemann's The Resurrection of
Jesus, and the quote certainly misses Funk's nuance.
Funk asks why the book created such violent reactions in Germany (because
scholars were "paving over" the "crisis" in present-day Christianity). The
only remedy for Luedemann is to "face the issues squarely, honestly . . . ."
"The crisis does not arise merely from the way in which the gospels and later
interpreters have treated the resurrection. The crisis arises, in large part,
from what we can know about Jesus himself. For example," [Then your quote
There also is a section missing between the "imaginations" and "In my view,"
where Funk disagrees with Luedemann's "extra nos," the "something beyond us,
something of which we can be absolutely certain." Funk writes: "While I share
Luedemann's conclusion, I do not share his conviction."
firstname.lastname@example.org on Monday, July 17, 2006 at 11:27 PM -0500 wrote:
>Can anyone here supply with the context -- i.e., what Funk says both[section missing; see above]
>before and after the following statement that appeared in The Fourth R,
>January-February 1995, p.9?
>As an historian, I do not know for certain that Jesus really existed,
>that he is anything more than the figment of some overactive
>In my view, there is nothing about Jesus of Nazareth thatIn the mortal life we have, there are only probabilities.
>we can know beyond any possible doubt....
>And the Jesus that scholarsFunk goes on to say that we should not lay claim to transcendent certainties
>have isolated in the ancient gospels, gospels that are bloated with the
>will to believe, may turn out to be only another image that merely
>reflects our deepest longings.
but "submit to all the conditions of finite existence. He does agree with
Luedemann, however, that "Jesus is the ground of our faith as Christians." But
Funk--like he says Jesus did--accepts his finitude.
Hope that helps.
Every good wish,
Dr. David B. Gowler
Pierce Professor of Religion; Associate Professor
Oxford College of Emory University
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