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Re: [XTalk] God-forsakenness in Mark

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  • Jeff Peterson
    Rikk, I m heading the same direction, only a little later -- about an hour from now, though I expect my eyes are still red, as well. Maybe we can discuss the
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      Rikk,

      I'm heading the same direction, only a little later -- about an hour
      from now, though I expect my eyes are still red, as well.

      Maybe we can discuss the Mark question in Philly and then share our
      considered wisdom with the list when we're back home!

      All best,

      Jeff


      On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Rikk Watts wrote:

      > Hi Jeff,
      > I'd love to respond more fully but I'm about to head off for the
      > red-eye
      > special to SBL. ... perhaps we can pick this up when I get back in
      > town in
      > the middle of next week.
      >
      > Have a great weekend.
      >
      >
      > Rikk Watts (Cantab)
      > Regent College, Vancouver
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > On 17/11/05 3:08 PM, "Jeff Peterson" <peterson@...> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > > On Nov 17, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Rikk Watts wrote:
      > >
      > >> I'm sure it has that emphasis too. But, I'm much less sure that
      > >> Mark would
      > >> have recognized these categories as categories, and even less as
      > >> exclusive
      > >> ones. I'm probably out of my depth here, but my understanding is
      > >> that it was
      > >> Pierre de la Remée in the 16th cent. who was largely responsible
      > >> for this
      > >> kind of compartmentalization. These days I tend not to be too
      > >> excited about
      > >> Christology, Ecclesiology, Soteriology, etc. as categories since
      > >> they seem
      > >> so artificial. Jesus' identity is integral to Israel's future hopes
      > >> and vice
      > >> versa, as is the identity of the people of God.
      > >
      > > Rikk,
      > >
      > > I agree on the inaptness of summarizing a story of salvation under
      > > abstract headings in the manner of systematic theologians (although
      > > when an evangelist asserts, "Jesus accomplished X," it does seem a
      > > legitimate bit of second-order reflection to ask, "Who/what must
      > > Jesus then have been?"; and FWIW I think there's more to be said for
      > > a Chalcedonian answer to that question than is fashionable). But
      > that
      > > still leaves the reader of Mark asking what's the significance of
      > the
      > > cry of dereliction in the gospel narrative, and I can't say I've
      > seen
      > > a really satisfactory answer. Have you?
      > >
      > > Jeff Peterson
      > > Austin Graduate School of Theology
      > > Austin, Texas
      > >
      > >
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