Re: Physical bodies in heaven
- --- John Staton wrote:
> Mike,Sorry; my mind was playing tricks on me.
> Concerning John 20: 24-29, Thomas doesn't touch, either.
> It would appear both gospel writers depict Jesus as offering theThe locution seems ambiguous to me. I mean, one could imagine her
> possibility of touch, but suggesting the disciples did not do so.
> The only exception I can think of is John 20: 17. "Do not touch
> me" suggests Mary Magdalene was in fact touching Jesus at the time.
reaching out to him, and then he stops her before she can actually
touch him. I think there's purity regulations in the background here
about coming into contact with dead bodies.
> In general, however, I think your argument with John SabatinoThanks!
> Where I do part company with you, however, is that I believe thatThe thing is, I can't find physical proofs in any text generally
> Luke records the resurrection appearances as he believed they
> happened. I believe these stories must go back to the earliest
> memories of the RJ.
accepted as having been written prior to the 90's. Do you see any?
Mt. Clemens, MI
- On Dec 31, 2004, at 10:44 PM, Horace Jeffery Hodges wrote:
> The difference that most Christians would ascribe toI would take a different tack: that Jesus was the "first fruits" of the
> Jesus is that he is divine, being one person of the
> triune Godhead, whereas everyone else who will be
> resurrected (whether physically or spiritually) is
> human, all too human.
general resurrection and that, by raising him from the dead, God has
promised to do likewise for those who are "in" Christ. I take this to
be Paul's take as well (see 1Cor 15.12-20).
However, I doubt that that this is the average pew-sitter's view, at
least in Evangelical circles. In my experience, their emphasis would
be on Jesus' crucifixion resurrection as an act of atonement, and what
was unique about Jesus was his innocence. That is, Jesus was a perfect
sacrifice, without sin, who could therefore atone for the sins of all
mankind. Those who take this point of view tend not to think of
"heaven" in terms of resurrection, and even Jesus' resurrection would
be emphasized much less than Jesus' crucifixion. Even the Left-Behind
crowd talks about the general resurrection of the dead as being "raised
up" or something, reserving the term "resurrection" for Jesus himself.
Patrick Narkinsky - patrick@...
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