Re: [XTalk] Herod Antipas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim West" <jwest@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [XTalk] Herod Antipas
> At 07:03 PM 5/2/04 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about Matt. 11.7-8 // Luke 7.24-25? ""What did you go out into
> >the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? 7:25 What did you
> >go out to see? A man dressed in fancy clothes? Look, those who wear
> >fancy clothes and live in luxury are in kings' courts!" Theissen
> >argues that this is a reference to Herod Antipas, who had reeds on
> >his coins and who, of course, is the obvious contender for someone
> >who lives royal luxury when one is speaking to a bunch of Galileans
> >about John the Baptist. Could the "reed shaken by the wind" also be
> >a clever play on a spineless, unmanly character, unable to stand up
> >to his wife when she demands something of him?
> Is the "reed" imagery used in other Greek literature to describe a person
> effeminate character?
I think the effeminacy of Herod Antipas is strictly out of the nun's
hallucinations which form a great bulk of Gibson's movie.
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- His mother was a Samaritan. His father's forebears were Idumaean, and
opinions differed as to how many generations must pass before the
descendants of a convert became proper Jews. What does that make Antipas?
He played second fiddle to Archelaus when it came to divvying up the
territory. His marriage to a royal niece, who had the audacity to divorce
his brother before contracting another dubious marriage and insisted she be
his one and only wife, provoked a war.
None of this proves him effeminate, but does set him up as the butt of
caustic humour, and malicious gossip: Drunkenness may have been routine
for a man educated in Rome. Succumbing to the allures of his young wife's
even younger daughter. Presenting her with JBap's head on a platter.
Thinking Jesus might be JBap redivivus. Asking for a stunt miracle at
Jesus' arraignment. He fell out with Pilate as well as Aretas.
How does this stack up against the reputation of your regular wannabe
monarch of the era?
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