RE: [XTalk] The Patchwork Gospels
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> >>The irony is that Mk 12:13-17/Mt 22:15-22/Lk[Dave]
> 20:20-26/Thom 100/Eger 3:1-6
> actually show Jesus
> obliquely opposing taxation. If one really wants to
> locate an historical
> Jesus who denied the legitimacy of Caesar's claim on
> this point, it's right
> there in the gospels -- at least, that's how I read
> the text in light of
> both Roman policies and practices in conjunction
> with Jewish views of the day.
> Does the author of the patchwork Gospel hypothesisHe fervently denies that anything like Mk 12:13-17
> think that the command to
> pay taxes was from Jesus, or simply Paul's
> "addition" to the tradition?
(and par) goes back to Jesus. His position is that the
historical Jesus is 99.9% lost to us (more lost than
even Burton Mack believes); that the only thing we can
really say is that he was executed by authorities as a
some kind of revolutionary. So for Templeman Mk 12
(and par) derive from Paul (in Rom 13), who was the
first to inject this material into the tradition.
> Or is the stuff in black type supposed toNo, the stuff in black represents the material that
> represent Jesus tradition?
never shows up in any sources until later than the 3rd
century. So it's the last of the last.
> Of course, Jesus' dispute over the issue owed more[Dave]
> to "left" than "right" reasons...
> <groan!>If it's any consolation to you, I'm only sightly left
of center (in fact almost a centrist). So while I'm
convinced that the evidence warrants seeing HJ as
aggressively left (especialy if people like Yoder are
right about his harking back to the Jubilee), I'm not
-- and if he lived today, he and I would disagree
substantially on many issues relating to regulated vs
For what that's worth. :)
Loren Rosson III
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