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24067RE: [XTalk] Judas and the sicarii ?

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  • Bob Schacht
    Feb 10, 2012
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      At 09:16 AM 2/10/2012, Matson, Mark (Academic) wrote:
      >David:
      >
      >A quick check of TLG using search string "sikar" found extensive use
      >by Josephus (AJ and BJ), and then Acts 21:38, and then by church
      >historians and fathers (Eusebius, Origen, Chrysostom, etc...).
      >
      >Earlier than Josephus (and after in secular Greek authors) the
      >string returned primarily wlesikarpos.... where the search string is
      >buried in the middle of this word...
      >
      >Doesn't appear to have been much used outside of Josephus and later
      >fathers, and always to mean assassin.

      Oh boy. The implications of that information are pretty serious.
      Judas the Assassin? Maybe he did more than turn Jesus over to the Romans?

      Bob Schacht
      Northern Arizona University


      >Mark A. Matson
      >Milligan College, TN
      >http://www.milligan.edu/administrative/mmatson/personal.htm
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      >From: crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com [crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com] On
      >Behalf Of David Mealand [D.Mealand@...]
      >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 7:37 AM
      >To: crosstalk2@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: RE: [XTalk] Judas and the sicarii ?
      >
      >Sicarius was used in latin to refer to an assassin
      >(sica being a curved dagger). The term was used
      >in latin at least as early as Cicero, so 1st C BCE.
      >It appears in Greek in Acts 21.38 and in Josephus
      >with reference to the troubles in the time of Felix
      >and Festus i.e. after 52 CE, around 20 years or so
      >after the demise of Judas.
      >
      >Does anyone have to hand the earliest instance of
      >the use of this latin loan word in Greek? Does someone
      >have a pre-Neronian example? That would seem to be
      >a relevant piece of evidence which might either support
      >or tend to disconfirm some of the assumptions behind
      >the discussion.
      >
      >David M.
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