Tacitus - the last word?
- On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 07:06:34 +0100, mc2499@... writes:
>From my Grandfather's 1878 Harper & Brothers LATIN Dictionary
>>Suetonius, of course, wrote in Latin, so the connotations provided
>>by a dictionary of "Current English" is of questionable relevance.
Expello, puli, pulsum... gvies a number of quotes representing
drive out or away, thrust out or away from the likes of Propertiue,
Cicero, Ovid and finally Suetonius "Orientem statum expuulsus" meaning
How much more do you want...(babble,babble,babble)
Ian, thanks for driving me to the source...
>This of course is why I went from that dictionary (which was a means of
>getting at the simple idea of what the generic significance of "expel" was)
>to the etymology as to the words that have entered English from Latin to
>indicate the significance of the stem morpheme, all the examples have
>entered Italian with basically the same significances.
>>Looking at Lewis & Short's LATIN DICTIONARY under EXPELLO yields
>>quite a few glosses without the notion of force (e.g. exiled,
>>rejected, repudiated (of a wife in a divorce), etc.)
>Of these only "exile" has any relevance at all. One would of course like to
>see how it pans out in Lewis and Short.
>>it is probably reading too much into the text to require a use of
>>force by Claudius
>I was arguing that potential force was sufficient, though Jeffrey Gibson's
>post does throw new light on the matter.
>>that would tend to contradict Tertullian's
>>characterization that Nero was the first to use the sword against
>>Christianity. Few governments need to apply force every time an
>>order is given; however, the implied threat is always present.
>As I was saying, potential force was sufficient.
>>It is also interesting to see Acts and Suetonius give many of the
>>same details (Claudius' banishment of Jews from Rome), yet with
>>differences of wording, suggesting independent attestation of the
>There was no argument on this matter, Stephen.