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Re: a man or a myth?

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  • Tom Simms
    ... Glad to see you know Quality when you see it...
    Message 1 of 4 , Feb 5, 1999
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      On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:45:39 -0800, jnp@... writes:
      >
      >Following are physical artifacts attesting to the famous Jesus Christ of
      >History.
      >
      >1. The grave of
      >Pantera in Germany
      >
      >2. The stela of Pilate at Caesarea
      >
      >3. The ossuary of
      >Caiaphas
      >
      >4. The coins of the various roman officials and emperors
      >that speak to the career of Jesus
      >
      >5. The literary record reeks of the presence of Jesus no matter how well the
      >texts hide him from us.
      >
      >The provenances of scripture manuscripts
      >are much richer and more supporting than those of most Classical authors.
      >
      >
      >CREDIT for the above belongs to a prominent Fundy mentalist who posted it in
      >a prior hash.
      >
      >Correct answer to "man or myth?" is "both." Obviously a Jesus existed, but
      >his bio is presented with theology and may contain legend.
      >
      >Regards,
      >
      >Jon
      >
      >

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    • Mike Myers
      Jon, would you give us some more details concerning this grave of Pantera in Germany? And elaborate on its relevance? Thanks. Mike ... From: Jon Peter
      Message 2 of 4 , Feb 5, 1999
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        Jon, would you give us some more details concerning this "grave of
        Pantera" in Germany? And elaborate on its relevance?

        Thanks.
        Mike

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        From: Jon Peter <jnp@...>
        Subject: Re: a man or a myth?
        Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:45:39 -0800
        To: Crosstalk <crosstalk@...>


        Following are physical artifacts attesting to the famous Jesus
        Christ of History.

        1. The grave of
        Pantera in Germany

        (...snip...)
      • Ian Hutchesson
        ... Actually none of these do the job. 1) the grave of a Pantera in Germany needs somehow to be related to the matter: linguistic arguments and rabbinic
        Message 3 of 4 , Feb 5, 1999
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          >On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:45:39 -0800, jnp@... writes:
          >>
          >>Following are physical artifacts attesting to the famous Jesus Christ of
          >>History.
          >>
          >>1. The grave of
          >>Pantera in Germany
          >>
          >>2. The stela of Pilate at Caesarea
          >>
          >>3. The ossuary of
          >>Caiaphas
          >>
          >>4. The coins of the various roman officials and emperors
          >>that speak to the career of Jesus
          >>
          >>5. The literary record reeks of the presence of Jesus no matter how well the
          >>texts hide him from us.

          Actually none of these do the job.

          1) the grave of a Pantera in Germany needs somehow to be related to
          the matter: linguistic arguments and rabbinic attacks don't help.
          2) the Pilate Stela gives supports the existence of Pilate -- nothing
          else.
          3) the ossuary of Caiaphas tells us only about Caiaphas.
          4) the coins speak only for their producers
          5) the literary record reeks with the presence of Lancelot no matter
          how well the texts hide him from us. Huh? (Arthurian lit.)


          Ian

          >>The provenances of scripture manuscripts
          >>are much richer and more supporting than those of most Classical authors.
          >>
          >>
          >>CREDIT for the above belongs to a prominent Fundy mentalist who posted it in
          >>a prior hash.
          >>
          >>Correct answer to "man or myth?" is "both." Obviously a Jesus existed, but
          >>his bio is presented with theology and may contain legend.
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