Re: Thoughts of GosThom
- Mahlon H. Smith wrote:
> I think there is a fourth argument to support Thomasine independence that puts theOn the one hand, I think that if a similar organization were discernible between
> dependence people on the defensive:
> 4. Randomness: GThom is regularly more disorganized than parallel
> synoptic material.
thomas/synoptics, then that would suggest strongly some kind of dependence. On the other
hand, I don't think the absence of similar order, in and of itself, indicates anything.
The reason I think this is that I can conceive of a situation in which the order would be
essentially erased. Returning to analogies with my life, imagine this: I go to church
and read a brief passage in one of the Gospels and listen to it expounded and then go
home and for my notes, write down "Jesus said," and the part of the saying that was most
meaningful to me. Of course, I would be writing from memory. Then, I go to church next
week; if they are still in the same passage (which isn't likely in the churches I've been
to), I don't find anything I like. The same cycle continues for the next few weeks and
then I hear another saying that strikes a cord in me. And I go home and scribble "Jesus
said," and the part of the saying that I liked. This second saying wouldn't show any
similar order with any of the texts I had derived it from, but that wouldn't prove I
hadn;'t borrowed. In any case, you get the analogy. My point is this: if the Gospel of
Thomas truly did originate in the middle/late second century in a context of a church
that routinely used the fourfold gospel in its worship and not everybody had a copy of
the manuscipts being read, then the synoptic (and johannine) order would be completely
destroyed. I think it is possible enough to say that lack of synoptic order does not
indicate anything, in and of itself.
- Dear Rene:
I think it has a much simpler answer: Nobody cares what gender anybody is.
Why should they? You pick the most likely, that's all. I cannot imagine
that the distinction, if known would alter any item in the ongoing
At 07:49 AM 10/22/98 -0700, you wrote:
> This disembodied forum of cyberspace, where all is transmitted via____________________________________
>printed word, can lead to amusing curiosities such as myself
>being referred to lately on Crosstalk as "she" and even most recently
>"Renee" (contrary to the evidence!) when I am in fact quite happily
>male... :) No apologies are in order by anyone except myself for not
>putting "Mr." in front of the name.
> It just goes to show how easy it is for all of us to go beyond the
> I'll be posting more GTh-Synoptic parallel statistics in the next 24
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Michael T. MacDonell, Ph.D.
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Trinity College and Seminary