Re: Biblical Eons
> Dark energy was INFERRED from the VISIBLE fact that the expansion of theOn the contrary, no one has ever observed the expansion of the universe. We NEVER detect the angular separation of distant galaxies increasing, from one date to another. (We do observe knots emerging from tohu bohu point sources from one year to another both in our galaxy and in nearby galaxies.
> universe is accelerating.
The process scientists use started with the scientific first principle.
1. Scientists detected that all atomic clocks from the distant universe visibly clocked different frequencies (colors) than local atoms. In general, the most distant galaxies shone at the lowest ratios compared to the rate of modern (local) atoms -0 down in the microwave and infrared.
2. Since this is a clear violation of science's first principle, it is simply not permitted. So scientists speculated about how the vacuum of space time (a never observed entity) is stretching out the universe's vacuum.
3. How much simpler it is to question a mere assumption than to fill they universe up with magical, undetectable space-time.
> > No constants are visible in the whole universe.Light is FUNDAMENTAL. When Elohim created the Earth, at first it was without form, not extended in space. Then He continued to command light to continue to be. It was then that atoms were formed as a relation with light.
> Perhaps not, but the speed of light appears invariant and there are a
> number of near-constants.
All observations and even measurements are ultimately referenced to light, since matter itself is a relation with light.
Light is self referential.
Scientists contrive their notion of linear clocks with their assumption that atoms dither with perpetual motion.
Then they contrive units of length using the same assumption, that cesium atoms dither with perpetual motion.
Then they contrive tens of thousands of other units and constants, all based on the visibly false assumption that atoms are immutable and dither with perpetual motion.
The entire empirical house of cards was built on a single dogmatic assumption, which is visibly false in billions of galaxies, that atoms intrinsically remain the same.
> > No orbits are following the laws of physics in billions of galaxies. Streams of stars moved out from originally naked cores as the atomic clocks also kept changing.Our ancestors described and measured orbits unlike what we measure today in the solar system, planets gradually spreading apart.
> BILGE! LYING bilge!
We see the history of galaxies, that the stars in individual galaxies (and in galaxy clusters) spread out, moved outward, rotate out more, accelerated out more, as billions of galaxies grew into huge growth spirals. What is visible is contrary to every scientific theory of gravity. Yet it is visible, and what is visible is EXACTLY what the Bible states about cosmic history - that He placed the Sun, Moon and stars in the spreading place, the raqiya.
> > Since this is unscientific, just like a growing earth is unscientific, scientists must make up ad hoc stories about undetectable dark energy and the earth eating its crust without disturbing the sediments over the crust.Look, a child can look at the globe and see that North and South America used to be united.
> It is YOU who is making up ad hoc stories in an effort to assuage your
> envy. And I guarantee two things:
> 1. You never converted a Jesuit physicist to your views.
> 2. You never stuck around long enough to really try.
> Dave Oldridge
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I am not trying to convert Jesuits. I am merely pointing out the the VISIBLE evidence clearly contradicts the speculative principle upon which western science itself was contrived, the notion that matter is NOT INTRINSICALLY changing. We observe in the light from billions of galaxies that the inherent properties change in an orderly relational manner throughout cosmic history.
How complete will be the triumph of the Word of God over science, the system that was built on the very same idea the Bible predicted for the false teachers (literally mockers) of the last days.
- People in the Old Testament era could not imagine that time is
substance-like because that idea was popularized much later by
Christians. For centuries Europeans studied the Bible in Latin that did
not have a tenseless verb like the Greek aorist or the untensed biblical
Hebrew verbs. The western tradition affected the exegesis of the Bible
as they interpreted it using new ideas about time. One of the effects
of interpreting the Bible with western tensed grammars is the age of
the universe dichotomy. If creationists would accept the text in the
grammar and epistemic system of a contemporary, they could see that
galactic history as the strongest evidence for a literal creation.
All early people believed in geological eons in few years. Job 14 lists
the geological events that passed during the lives of Noah's
grandsons. One of Job's life-span markers was: the Mediterranean
dried. Indeed drill cores show that the Mediterranean dried repeatedly.
According to scientific estimates, the last drying was 5 million years
ago. According to the Bible, Job lived about 4500 years ago, during the
dinosaur age. Job also mentioned how their faces changed before they
died. If we lived for eons, our skulls would grow Neanderthal features.
Neanderthal children had skulls like moderns, which supports Job's
statement that their faces changed (doubled) before they died.
We directly compare billions of galaxies at many ranges. The fact that
the universe is eons old is clearly visible in galactic history. Hebrew
11:3 By faith we are apprehending that the plural eons were passively
equipped by the command of God out of things unseen.
What unseen thing allowed eons to passively form? We use the word
gravity to explain why the Earth orbits the Sun. However, the cause of
the gravitational phenomena is invisible. Perhaps He formed the plural
eons by establishing the gravitational phenomena long ago.
What is gravity? Gravity theories are based on assumptions. The best
way to test gravity theories is to compare visible galactic history
with a theory's predictions. We observe that the earliest galaxies
were often tiny and naked, sometimes surrounded by equally spaced globs
with different spectral colors than the core. At many ranges we observe
how the globs accelerate outward, taking up more space, changing their
spectral frequencies as the stars accelerated out forming growth
spirals. The star streams move opposite from Newton or Einstein's
If what we see in the distance is real, then Earth's orbit should
also accelerate. Over the centuries, astronomers measured with angles a
decreasing solar parallax. Thirty five hundred years ago, our ancestors
mentions close planet passages and the shattering of a nearby planet,
which the Bible also records. The solar system contains tens of
thousands broken planet pieces in the form of comets and asteroids.
They contain rocks whose crystals formed deep underground in volcanic
conditions and sedimentary rocks like cubanite that formed in warm
liquid water. Evidently a planet was smashed just like our ancestors
claimed a few thousand years ago.
A scientist might insist that they measure clock-like orbits, which
prohibits planet collisions 4000 years ago. In 1970 NASA sent calibrated
clocks out of the solar system on Pioneers 10 and 11. Their clock
signals, transmitted from the past, kept changing with distance,
relative to NASA's hydrogen maser clocks of the moment. The Pioneer
clocks changed with distance at the Hubble ratio, which astronomers use
to estimate the distance to galaxies using their light clock rates.
Clocks from the past are running slower than modern clocks. Some
distant light-clocks, observed with telescopes, clocked about 7% of the
frequencies emitted by modern atoms.
We need a gravity theory based on biblical principles to account for why
orbits visibly accelerate throughout cosmic history.
1. The Bible plainly states that the creation is enslaved to change.
Paul used orderly submission and together verbs to describe this
deterioration in Romans 8:19 - 22
. We observe that atoms continue to change relationally by comparing the
shape and spectra of galaxies at many ranges.
2. The gravitational phenomena is not a perpetual motion effect, as in
Newton and Einstein. As atoms change their clock rates, they emit
invisible gravity. Inertia and the gravitational phenomena were
different a few millennium ago, which is why giant dinosaurs once
roamed the Earth. If they were alive today, they would have trouble
3. Gravitational phenomena do not propagate at infinite speed as in
Newton's formulas. The aberration effect, the angular offset of the
Sun's gravity, pulls more on one hemisphere than the other.
Paraconical pendulum demonstrate that the gravitational effect from the
Sun and Moon vary depending on the positions of those distant objects.
The aberration of gravity accelerates both days and years, pushing the
earth (and all the planets) outwards in their orbits. It also
accelerates the earth's spin so that the ratio between days and
years stays about the same. The aberration of gravity also causes the
distances between consecutive planets to increase logarithmically (the
Titius Bode effect). It is not time that is accelerating, but rather
orbits and rotations relative to their previous states, not relative to
Someone might insist that there is a balance between the Earth's
inertia and the pull of the Sun's gravity. If one of them were to
change, the earth would be ejected from the solar system. Relational
change is where everything changes in parallel, together. You cannot
model relational changes with mathematics. Mathematical models are
based on the notion that atoms are perpetual motion engines. The
effects of relational changes are visible. We observe how billions of
galaxies intrinsically grew into growth spirals.
Lift up your eyes and look at galactic history. How great will be the
triumph of the Word of God over science.
This cylinder seal from Kish is in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. It
depicts a common theme from 4000 years ago, a battle between planet
gods. We know they are planets because they are wearing hats with horns,
perhaps depictions of ice rings or the crescent shapes when a planet is
at an angle from the sun. Two planet gods are down and being brained
with maces. One planet god has gripped the horned hat of another and has
raised his mace. The Bible condemns the worshiping of planet gods,
however, it uses similar words as the pagans to describe a planet
Victor, Changing Earth Creationist
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