ACLU champtions civil rights of ALL; was: Want some opinions
- "Laurie Appleton" <lappleto@...> wrote:
<<Do you remember also expressing some misgivings about the humanists
having some sort of taxation exemptions, similar to those which apply
to religious organizations?>>
The tax exemption status is EDUCATIONAL for BOTH the American Humanist
Association and the Council for Secular Humanism, two well-known
national humanist organizations in the U.S.
<<They also supported the right of Hitler's supporters to run
"demonstrations" didn't they?>>
The ACLU protects the civil rights of everyone, not only those who
express ideas they approve of.
<<The un-American activities committee said that between 1943 and 1948
the ACLU; "may definitely be classed as a Communist front or
'transmission belt' organization". So much then for their pretence of
the "rights" of others.>>
I would appreciate a direct citation, in context to substantiate that
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Allen Lints"
> --- In
> <debatebill@> wrote:honest.
> > --- In email@example.com, "mark" <mad@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > Dindy: I somehow think that if your own little speciali
> > > interest
> > > > > > group was the one being affected you would not be so
> > > complacent.
> > > > >
> > > > > mark g; I don't have a special interest group to be
> > > > > closest I come to belonging to an organization of any kind
> > > thishunting
> > > > > group. I don't belong to the NRA, the North American
> > > club,You
> > > > The
> > > > > Redneck Americans of NASCAR or anything else. I speak for
> > myself
> > > and
> > > > > am my only representative. I go to a non demnominational
> > > but I
> > > > > am not an offical member of it either.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dindy: You are a member of several special interest groups.
> > > are ato
> > > > Christian, a cop, and a veteran- all of which are special
> > interest
> > > > groups. I'm sure you are a member of other special interest
> > groups-
> > > -
> > > > softball coaches, for example.
> > > >
> > > mark g; Okay I never considered them special interest groups
> > > honest. Let me say then that I do not belong to any one
> > > group to which I pay a membership for representation.
> > >
> > Dindy: That's fine. But you are still a member of the special
> > interest groups, by virtue of your beliefs, interests and life
> > circumstances. When Bill was laid off several years ago, we
> > members of the special interest group of the unemployed. Billand I
> > have recently received various offers from oil companies for theBill
> > mineral rights to the land underneath the house we've owned and
> > in for 17 years because the house sits upon Barnett Shale, which
> > proven to be an extremely rich source of natural gas. So now
> > I have become part of a special interest group we never dreamed
> > that of "oil barrons." I'm part of a special interest group of
> > who spend two or more hours a day commuting to work. We all are
> > members of various special interest groups, and when we vote or
> > decisions, we do so on that basis.
> Dindy your analysis is precisely why the Democratic Party fails to
> win presidential election in the US. The Democratic Party always
> analysis every policy in terms of special interest groups instead
> individual voters. While it might be true individuals vote forthere
> interest groups, they only have the one vote so in sense they mustcouldn't
> vote against there interest group policies. Otherwise they
> vote at all.MATT: So now you are claiming to be a political expert as well?
> Allen Lints
Do tell. So an interest group only has one vote? "Otherwise they
***couldn't*** vote at all." Wow. Fundamentals of mathematics indeed.