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  • wayne.lammers
    Hello Everyone, My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part
    Message 1 of 18 , Jan 9, 2011
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      Hello Everyone,

      My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the world.

      I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been out of business for over two years.

      All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to build my own.

      I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original traps.

      I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.

      The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.

      Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something by the end of March or early April.

      I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.

      Wayne
    • Bev Kirk
      Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I don t recall
      Message 2 of 18 , Jan 9, 2011
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        Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
        family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
        don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
        I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!

        I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
        we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
        off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
        trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.

        I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
        list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!

        Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska





        ________________________________
        From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>
        To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
        Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps


        Hello Everyone,

        My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
        catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
        world.


        I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
        the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
        world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
        out of business for over two years.


        All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
        crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
        found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
        build my own.


        I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
        best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
        said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
        changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
        traps.


        I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
        holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
        walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
        small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
        better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.


        The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
        use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
        wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.


        Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
        by the end of March or early April.


        I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
        especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
        for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.

        Wayne







        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • Carl Hofstee
        Hello there. My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia. I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I
        Message 3 of 18 , Jan 10, 2011
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          Hello there.

          My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.

          I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.

          As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.

          Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.

          We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.

          The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.

          We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.

          Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass

          of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.

          Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot

          I hope this is of some benefit to you all.

          Happy fishing and many a tight line

          Regards Carl.

          Rock Lobster Pot

          All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.

          Specifications


          Maximum width:

          1.5 metre


          Maximum height:

          1.2 metre


          Maximum number permitted:

          2


          Marking:

          1 red buoy, volume 4 litres


          A current registration tag



          Mouth of the pot:

          The mouth must be at the top


          Escape gaps:

          2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot


          Distance:

          he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot


          Minimum size of escape gaps:

          15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high



          If no escape gaps:

          The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through



          lobster7tag









          From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
          Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
          To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps





          Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
          family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
          don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
          I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!

          I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
          we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
          off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
          trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.

          I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
          list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!

          Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

          ________________________________
          From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@... <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
          To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
          Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps

          Hello Everyone,

          My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
          catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
          world.

          I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
          the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
          world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
          out of business for over two years.

          All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
          crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
          found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
          build my own.

          I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
          best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
          said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
          changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
          traps.

          I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
          holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
          walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
          small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
          better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.

          The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
          use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
          wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.

          Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
          by the end of March or early April.

          I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
          especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
          for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.

          Wayne

          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        • wayne.lammers
          Hello Carl, Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock,
          Message 4 of 18 , Jan 10, 2011
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            Hello Carl,

            Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.

            I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.

            Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.

            Happy fishing,

            Wayne



            --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hello there.
            >
            > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
            >
            > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
            >
            > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.
            >
            > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
            >
            > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.
            >
            > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.
            >
            > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
            >
            > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass
            >
            > of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
            >
            > Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
            >
            > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
            >
            > Happy fishing and many a tight line
            >
            > Regards Carl.
            >
            > Rock Lobster Pot
            >
            > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.
            >
            > Specifications
            >
            >
            > Maximum width:
            >
            > 1.5 metre
            >
            >
            > Maximum height:
            >
            > 1.2 metre
            >
            >
            > Maximum number permitted:
            >
            > 2
            >
            >
            > Marking:
            >
            > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
            >
            >
            > A current registration tag
            >
            >
            >
            > Mouth of the pot:
            >
            > The mouth must be at the top
            >
            >
            > Escape gaps:
            >
            > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
            >
            >
            > Distance:
            >
            > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot
            >
            >
            > Minimum size of escape gaps:
            >
            > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
            >
            >
            >
            > If no escape gaps:
            >
            > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through
            >
            >
            >
            > lobster7tag
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
            > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
            > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
            > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
            > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
            > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
            >
            > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
            > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
            > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
            > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
            >
            > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
            > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
            >
            > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

            Hello Bev,

            I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.

            I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?

            I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.

            I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.

            We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.

            Wayne
            >
            > ________________________________
            > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@... <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
            > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
            > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
            >
            > Hello Everyone,
            >
            > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
            > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
            > world.
            >
            > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
            > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
            > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
            > out of business for over two years.
            >
            > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
            > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
            > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
            > build my own.
            >
            > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
            > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
            > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
            > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
            > traps.
            >
            > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
            > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
            > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
            > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
            > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
            >
            > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
            > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
            > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
            >
            > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
            > by the end of March or early April.
            >
            > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
            > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
            > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
            >
            > Wayne
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
          • randy mescaniuk
            Hi everyone. My name is Randy and I live in Vancouver Canada. One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don t have lobsters in this part
            Message 5 of 18 , Jan 10, 2011
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              Hi everyone.

              My name is Randy and I live in Vancouver Canada. One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
              in this part of the Pacific Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab 30 to 60 feet down. For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.

              On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called
              them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.
              I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.

              The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
              They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.
              Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
              I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.

              In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish. One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another
              commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.

              Bye for now




              To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
              From: cwlammers@...
              Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
              Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps





              Hello Carl,

              Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.

              I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.

              Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.

              Happy fishing,

              Wayne

              --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@...> wrote:
              >
              > Hello there.
              >
              > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
              >
              > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
              >
              > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.
              >
              > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
              >
              > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.
              >
              > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray���s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.
              >
              > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
              >
              > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass
              >
              > of empty Cray I���ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
              >
              > Also there���s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
              >
              > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
              >
              > Happy fishing and many a tight line
              >
              > Regards Carl.
              >
              > Rock Lobster Pot
              >
              > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.
              >
              > Specifications
              >
              >
              > Maximum width:
              >
              > 1.5 metre
              >
              >
              > Maximum height:
              >
              > 1.2 metre
              >
              >
              > Maximum number permitted:
              >
              > 2
              >
              >
              > Marking:
              >
              > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
              >
              >
              > A current registration tag
              >
              >
              >
              > Mouth of the pot:
              >
              > The mouth must be at the top
              >
              >
              > Escape gaps:
              >
              > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
              >
              >
              > Distance:
              >
              > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot
              >
              >
              > Minimum size of escape gaps:
              >
              > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
              >
              >
              >
              > If no escape gaps:
              >
              > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through
              >
              >
              >
              > lobster7tag
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
              > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
              > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
              > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
              > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
              > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
              >
              > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
              > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
              > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
              > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
              >
              > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
              > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
              >
              > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

              Hello Bev,

              I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.

              I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?

              I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.

              I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.

              We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.

              Wayne
              >
              > ________________________________
              > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@... <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
              > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
              > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
              >
              > Hello Everyone,
              >
              > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
              > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
              > world.
              >
              > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
              > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
              > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
              > out of business for over two years.
              >
              > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
              > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
              > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
              > build my own.
              >
              > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
              > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
              > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
              > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
              > traps.
              >
              > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
              > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
              > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
              > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
              > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
              >
              > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
              > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
              > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
              >
              > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
              > by the end of March or early April.
              >
              > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
              > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
              > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
              >
              > Wayne
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >






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            • Stuart Large
              Hi People. I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food. I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish
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                Hi People.
                I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.
                I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.
                They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.
                I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.
                If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.

                Regards Stuart

                --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...> wrote:

                From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...>
                Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM


                Hi everyone.

                  My name is Randy and I  live in Vancouver Canada.  One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
                in this part of the Pacific  Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab  30 to 60 feet down.   For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.

                  On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they  can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called
                them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.
                I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't  catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.

                The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
                They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.
                  Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
                I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.

                In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.  One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another
                commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.

                   Bye for now




                To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                From: cwlammers@...
                Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
                Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps


                 


                Hello Carl,

                Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.

                I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.

                Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.

                Happy fishing,

                Wayne

                --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@...> wrote:
                >
                > Hello there.
                >
                > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
                >
                > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
                >
                > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.
                >
                > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
                >
                > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.
                >
                > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.
                >
                > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
                >
                > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass
                >
                > of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
                >
                > Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
                >
                > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
                >
                > Happy fishing and many a tight line
                >
                > Regards Carl.
                >
                > Rock Lobster Pot
                >
                > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.
                >
                > Specifications
                >
                >
                > Maximum width:
                >
                > 1.5 metre
                >
                >
                > Maximum height:
                >
                > 1.2 metre
                >
                >
                > Maximum number permitted:
                >
                > 2
                >
                >
                > Marking:
                >
                > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
                >
                >
                > A current registration tag
                >
                >
                >
                > Mouth of the pot:
                >
                > The mouth must be at the top
                >
                >
                > Escape gaps:
                >
                > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
                >
                >
                > Distance:
                >
                > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot
                >
                >
                > Minimum size of escape gaps:
                >
                > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
                >
                >
                >
                > If no escape gaps:
                >
                > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through
                >
                >
                >
                > lobster7tag
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
                > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
                > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
                > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
                > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
                > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
                >
                > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
                > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
                > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
                > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
                >
                > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
                > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
                >
                > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

                Hello Bev,

                I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.

                I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?

                I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.

                I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.

                We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.

                Wayne
                >
                > ________________________________
                > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@... <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
                > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
                > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
                > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                >
                > Hello Everyone,
                >
                > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
                > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
                > world.
                >
                > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
                > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
                > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
                > out of business for over two years.
                >
                > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
                > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
                > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
                > build my own.
                >
                > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
                > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
                > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
                > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
                > traps.
                >
                > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
                > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
                > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
                > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
                > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                >
                > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
                > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
                > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                >
                > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
                > by the end of March or early April.
                >
                > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
                > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
                > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                >
                > Wayne
                >
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                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >




                                         

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              • Crusty
                Hi Stuart Sounds fascinating with some very impressive growth rates for sure. Cheers Crusty www.blog.crayfishmates.com
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                  Hi Stuart

                  Sounds fascinating with some very impressive growth rates for sure.

                  Cheers
                  Crusty
                  www.blog.crayfishmates.com



                  On 1/11/2011 9:17 AM, Stuart Large wrote:
                  > Hi People.
                  > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.
                  > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.
                  > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.
                  > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.
                  > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.
                  >
                  > Regards Stuart
                  >
                  > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk<mescaniuk@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > From: randy mescaniuk<mescaniuk@...>
                  > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                  > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                  > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM
                  >
                  >
                  > Hi everyone.
                  >
                  > My name is Randy and I live in Vancouver Canada. One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
                  > in this part of the Pacific Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab 30 to 60 feet down. For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.
                  >
                  > On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called
                  > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.
                  > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.
                  >
                  > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
                  > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.
                  > Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
                  > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.
                  >
                  > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish. One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another
                  > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.
                  >
                  > Bye for now
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                  > From: cwlammers@...
                  > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
                  > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Hello Carl,
                  >
                  > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.
                  >
                  > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.
                  >
                  > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.
                  >
                  > Happy fishing,
                  >
                  > Wayne
                  >
                  > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee"<hofstee@...> wrote:
                  >> Hello there.
                  >>
                  >> My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
                  >>
                  >> I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
                  >>
                  >> As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.
                  >>
                  >> Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
                  >>
                  >> We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.
                  >>
                  >> The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.
                  >>
                  >> We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
                  >>
                  >> Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass
                  >>
                  >> of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
                  >>
                  >> Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
                  >>
                  >> I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
                  >>
                  >> Happy fishing and many a tight line
                  >>
                  >> Regards Carl.
                  >>
                  >> Rock Lobster Pot
                  >>
                  >> All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.
                  >>
                  >> Specifications
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Maximum width:
                  >>
                  >> 1.5 metre
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Maximum height:
                  >>
                  >> 1.2 metre
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Maximum number permitted:
                  >>
                  >> 2
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Marking:
                  >>
                  >> 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> A current registration tag
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Mouth of the pot:
                  >>
                  >> The mouth must be at the top
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Escape gaps:
                  >>
                  >> 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Distance:
                  >>
                  >> he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Minimum size of escape gaps:
                  >>
                  >> 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> If no escape gaps:
                  >>
                  >> The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> lobster7tag
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
                  >> Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
                  >> To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                  >> Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
                  >> family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
                  >> don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
                  >> I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
                  >>
                  >> I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
                  >> we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
                  >> off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
                  >> trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
                  >>
                  >> I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
                  >> list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
                  >>
                  >> Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska
                  > Hello Bev,
                  >
                  > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.
                  >
                  > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?
                  >
                  > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.
                  >
                  > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.
                  >
                  > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.
                  >
                  > Wayne
                  >> ________________________________
                  >> From: wayne.lammers<cwlammers@...<mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
                  >> To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com<mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
                  >> Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
                  >> Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                  >>
                  >> Hello Everyone,
                  >>
                  >> My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
                  >> catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
                  >> world.
                  >>
                  >> I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
                  >> the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
                  >> world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
                  >> out of business for over two years.
                  >>
                  >> All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
                  >> crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
                  >> found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
                  >> build my own.
                  >>
                  >> I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
                  >> best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
                  >> said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
                  >> changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
                  >> traps.
                  >>
                  >> I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
                  >> holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
                  >> walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
                  >> small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
                  >> better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                  >>
                  >> The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
                  >> use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
                  >> wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                  >>
                  >> Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
                  >> by the end of March or early April.
                  >>
                  >> I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
                  >> especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
                  >> for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                  >>
                  >> Wayne
                  >>
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                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
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                • L. Neil Smith
                  My interest in mudbugs is purely gastronomical. And you guys are making me so hungry! We used to have a great restaurant here (Fort Collins, Colorado, USA)
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                    My interest in mudbugs is purely gastronomical. And you guys are
                    making me so hungry! We used to have a great restaurant here (Fort
                    Collins, Colorado, USA) that served a pound of steamed crawdads with
                    drawn butter, cocktail sauce, and French bread. Add a margarita, and you
                    were all set to have a lovly afternoon.

                    Alas the place is dead and gone, and I've been searching ever since
                    for a reliable supply. We have some tiny ones in streams, but I'm not
                    sure I'd want to eat them, considering the likely pollutants. Somebody
                    should try a farm here in the landlocked center of the continent.

                    L. Neil Smith
                    Author, _The Lando Calrissian Adventures_, et al.
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                  • cumhur uzun
                    ı understand ur problem Yabbies are entertaining aquarium pets and very easy to keep. Two large (100gm) or four small (30gm) yabbies can be kept quite happily
                    Message 9 of 18 , Jan 11, 2011
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                      ı understand ur problem
                      Yabbies are entertaining aquarium pets and very easy to keep.
                      Two large (100gm) or four small (30gm) yabbies can be kept quite happily in a
                      4-foot aquarium by giving them enough shelter to hide when moulting, feeding
                      them regularly and supplying a filtered/oxygenated environment. The yabby can
                      live for months without eating at all so it's better to under-feed than
                      over-feed. This will help to keep the environment free of algae. Yabbies breed
                      readily. No special food is required for the juveniles as they will feed on
                      scraps missed by the mother. Extra shelter is required as other yabbies, and
                      even mothers eat the juveniles. It is also important to keep the water level
                      below the top of the tank, and the lid on at all times so that the yabbies do
                      not climb up the air hose and escape
                       Cumhur UZUN


                      Su Ürünleri Yüksek Mühendisi


                      Aquaculture Engineer
                      master degree in 2007




                      ________________________________
                      From: Crusty <donate@...>
                      To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 6:51:25 AM
                      Subject: Re: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

                       
                      Hi Stuart

                      Sounds fascinating with some very impressive growth rates for sure.

                      Cheers
                      Crusty
                      www.blog.crayfishmates.com

                      On 1/11/2011 9:17 AM, Stuart Large wrote:
                      > Hi People.
                      > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks
                      >for food.
                      > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating
                      >size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of
                      >10 per sq meter.
                      > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail
                      >meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism
                      >(as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not
                      >fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed
                      >like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year
                      >round.
                      > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is
                      >doing the same.
                      > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and
                      >the techniques I use.
                      >
                      > Regards Stuart
                      >
                      > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk<mescaniuk@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > From: randy mescaniuk<mescaniuk@...>
                      > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                      > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                      > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM
                      >
                      >
                      > Hi everyone.
                      >
                      > My name is Randy and I live in Vancouver Canada. One of my favorite hobbies is
                      >prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
                      > in this part of the Pacific Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock
                      >Crab 30 to 60 feet down. For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes
                      >it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty
                      >big.
                      >
                      > On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure
                      >enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they can
                      >be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven
                      >or eight aquariums going. I called
                      > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy
                      >who has pet spiders.
                      > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't catch
                      >prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive
                      >traps.
                      >
                      > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North
                      >America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
                      > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms
                      >reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and
                      >Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also
                      >heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I
                      >think the person used another name but they might be the same.
                      > Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish
                      >but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise
                      >them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity
                      >instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
                      > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater
                      >shrimp.
                      >
                      > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no
                      >restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season
                      >when you can trap Crayfish. One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild
                      >crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a
                      >lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there
                      >will never be another
                      > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the
                      >product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only
                      >say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.
                      >
                      > Bye for now
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                      > From: cwlammers@...
                      > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
                      > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Hello Carl,
                      >
                      > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main
                      >Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas.
                      >I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never
                      >ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.
                      >
                      > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so
                      >big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to
                      >raise them.
                      >
                      > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong,
                      >someone please tell me.
                      >
                      > Happy fishing,
                      >
                      > Wayne
                      >
                      > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee"<hofstee@...> wrote:
                      >> Hello there.
                      >>
                      >> My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
                      >>
                      >> I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I
                      >>think.
                      >>
                      >> As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish
                      >>per day.
                      >>
                      >> Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
                      >>
                      >> We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach
                      >>to inside of pot.
                      >>
                      >> The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes
                      >>for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening
                      >>ring is made out of plastic.
                      >>
                      >> We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop
                      >>or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
                      >>
                      >> Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is
                      >>a carcass
                      >>
                      >> of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
                      >>
                      >> Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
                      >>
                      >> I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
                      >>
                      >> Happy fishing and many a tight line
                      >>
                      >> Regards Carl.
                      >>
                      >> Rock Lobster Pot
                      >>
                      >> All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal
                      >use.
                      >>
                      >> Specifications
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Maximum width:
                      >>
                      >> 1.5 metre
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Maximum height:
                      >>
                      >> 1.2 metre
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Maximum number permitted:
                      >>
                      >> 2
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Marking:
                      >>
                      >> 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> A current registration tag
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Mouth of the pot:
                      >>
                      >> The mouth must be at the top
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Escape gaps:
                      >>
                      >> 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Distance:
                      >>
                      >> he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the
                      pot
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Minimum size of escape gaps:
                      >>
                      >> 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> If no escape gaps:
                      >>
                      >> The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in
                      >>diameter to easily pass through
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> lobster7tag
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                      >>Bev Kirk
                      >> Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
                      >> To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                      >> Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
                      >> family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
                      >> don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems
                      like
                      >> I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
                      >>
                      >> I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY),
                      >>and
                      >> we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely
                      >lived
                      >> off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of
                      >>brook
                      >> trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
                      >>
                      >> I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your
                      >email
                      >> list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
                      >>
                      >> Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska
                      > Hello Bev,
                      >
                      > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting
                      >Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral
                      >valve and had to retire after the surgery.
                      >
                      > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi
                      >River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?
                      >
                      > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I
                      >have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running
                      >the traps.
                      >
                      > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish
                      >now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe
                      >Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22
                      >lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they
                      >are.
                      >
                      > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep
                      >everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures
                      >of the traps later.
                      >
                      > Wayne
                      >> ________________________________
                      >> From: wayne.lammers<cwlammers@...<mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
                      >> To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com<mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
                      >> Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
                      >> Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                      >>
                      >> Hello Everyone,
                      >>
                      >> My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
                      >> catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
                      >> world.
                      >>
                      >> I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
                      >> the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
                      >> world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
                      >> out of business for over two years.
                      >>
                      >> All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
                      >> crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to
                      >be
                      >> found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have
                      to
                      >> build my own.
                      >>
                      >> I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
                      >> best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything
                      he
                      >> said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
                      >> changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
                      >> traps.
                      >>
                      >> I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
                      >> holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a
                      >tight-rope
                      >> walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
                      >> small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
                      >> better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                      >>
                      >> The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
                      >> use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
                      >> wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                      >>
                      >> Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know
                      >something
                      >> by the end of March or early April.
                      >>
                      >> I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish
                      >>and
                      >> especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
                      >> for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                      >>
                      >> Wayne
                      >>
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                      >>
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                      Stewart, Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA? Wayne
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                        Stewart,

                        Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA?

                        Wayne

                        --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > Hi People.
                        > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.
                        > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.
                        > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.
                        > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.
                        > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.
                        >
                        > Regards Stuart
                        >
                        > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...>
                        > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                        > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                        > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM
                        >
                        >
                        > Hi everyone.
                        >
                        >   My name is Randy and I  live in Vancouver Canada.  One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
                        > in this part of the Pacific  Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab  30 to 60 feet down.   For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.
                        >
                        >   On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they  can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called
                        > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.
                        > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't  catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.
                        >
                        > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
                        > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.
                        >   Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
                        > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.
                        >
                        > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.  One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another
                        > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.
                        >
                        >    Bye for now
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                        > From: cwlammers@...
                        > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
                        > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                        >
                        >
                        >  
                        >
                        >
                        > Hello Carl,
                        >
                        > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.
                        >
                        > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.
                        >
                        > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.
                        >
                        > Happy fishing,
                        >
                        > Wayne
                        >
                        > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > Hello there.
                        > >
                        > > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
                        > >
                        > > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
                        > >
                        > > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.
                        > >
                        > > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.
                        > >
                        > > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.
                        > >
                        > > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.
                        > >
                        > > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.
                        > >
                        > > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass
                        > >
                        > > of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.
                        > >
                        > > Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot
                        > >
                        > > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.
                        > >
                        > > Happy fishing and many a tight line
                        > >
                        > > Regards Carl.
                        > >
                        > > Rock Lobster Pot
                        > >
                        > > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.
                        > >
                        > > Specifications
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Maximum width:
                        > >
                        > > 1.5 metre
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Maximum height:
                        > >
                        > > 1.2 metre
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Maximum number permitted:
                        > >
                        > > 2
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Marking:
                        > >
                        > > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > A current registration tag
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Mouth of the pot:
                        > >
                        > > The mouth must be at the top
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Escape gaps:
                        > >
                        > > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Distance:
                        > >
                        > > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Minimum size of escape gaps:
                        > >
                        > > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > If no escape gaps:
                        > >
                        > > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > lobster7tag
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk
                        > > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM
                        > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                        > > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We
                        > > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I
                        > > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like
                        > > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!
                        > >
                        > > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and
                        > > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived
                        > > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook
                        > > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.
                        > >
                        > > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
                        > > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!
                        > >
                        > > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska
                        >
                        > Hello Bev,
                        >
                        > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.
                        >
                        > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?
                        >
                        > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.
                        >
                        > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.
                        >
                        > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.
                        >
                        > Wayne
                        > >
                        > > ________________________________
                        > > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@ <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >
                        > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM
                        > > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps
                        > >
                        > > Hello Everyone,
                        > >
                        > > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
                        > > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
                        > > world.
                        > >
                        > > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
                        > > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
                        > > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
                        > > out of business for over two years.
                        > >
                        > > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
                        > > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
                        > > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
                        > > build my own.
                        > >
                        > > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
                        > > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
                        > > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
                        > > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
                        > > traps.
                        > >
                        > > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
                        > > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
                        > > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
                        > > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
                        > > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                        > >
                        > > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
                        > > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
                        > > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                        > >
                        > > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
                        > > by the end of March or early April.
                        > >
                        > > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and
                        > > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River
                        > > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                        > >
                        > > Wayne
                        > >
                        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        > >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                        Hi Wayne. No I think it would be too difficult to ship live crayfish that far, but I know they are available in the US, I read about it on the net, Florida I
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                          Hi Wayne. No I think it would be too difficult to ship live crayfish that far, but I know they are available in the US, I read about it on the net, Florida I think, and also auburn university did some trials.
                          My Tanks 40ft long 6ft wide, and split into two sections, I keep Tilapia in the top section and redclaw in the bottom with two pipes connecting them, I have a pump in the bottom section, and pump water thro a filter to the top one, which overflows via the pipes back to the bottom section, several times a week I close the pipes and fill the top section up to the top, then open up again, this flushes all the sediment on the bottom, stopping it from going stale and toxic, and allow some clear concrete flooring as the crays seem to prefer eating on the clean hard bottom.
                          I feed mainly rice bran and some boiled veg plants, I used to also give trash fish and crushed snails. but now they wont eat them, I think the reason being is, feeding such a high carbohydrate diet (rice bran) has changed the balance of the water, now I have no green plankton and the water has turn clear but with a yellow/brown colour which indicates to me that I must have a high load of heterotrophic bacteria, which the crays must be eating, getting all their protein requirements that way.
                          The tanks have porous coral rock  in the nursery tanks for the baby crays to hide in. and the growout tanks have got hollow concrete blocks instead. which is important they need to hide away when they moult and would not be comfortable with out them.
                          Look on the net I'm sure you will be able to find some somwhere. good luck.

                          Regards Stuart

                          --- On Wed, 1/12/11, wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...> wrote:

                          From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>
                          Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                          To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 5:55 PM







                           









                          Stewart,



                          Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA?



                          Wayne



                          --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@...> wrote:

                          >

                          > Hi People.

                          > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.

                          > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.

                          > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.

                          > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.

                          > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.

                          >

                          > Regards Stuart

                          >

                          > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...> wrote:

                          >

                          > From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@...>

                          > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

                          > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

                          > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM

                          >

                          >

                          > Hi everyone.

                          >

                          >   My name is Randy and I  live in Vancouver Canada.  One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters

                          > in this part of the Pacific  Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab  30 to 60 feet down.   For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.

                          >

                          >   On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they  can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called

                          > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.

                          > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't  catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.

                          >

                          > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.

                          > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.

                          >   Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia

                          > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.

                          >

                          > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.  One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another

                          > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.

                          >

                          >    Bye for now

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          >

                          > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

                          > From: cwlammers@...

                          > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000

                          > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

                          >

                          >

                          >  

                          >

                          >

                          > Hello Carl,

                          >

                          > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.

                          >

                          > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.

                          >

                          > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.

                          >

                          > Happy fishing,

                          >

                          > Wayne

                          >

                          > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@> wrote:

                          > >

                          > > Hello there.

                          > >

                          > > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.

                          > >

                          > > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.

                          > >

                          > > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.

                          > >

                          > > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.

                          > >

                          > > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.

                          > >

                          > > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.

                          > >

                          > > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.

                          > >

                          > > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass

                          > >

                          > > of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.

                          > >

                          > > Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot

                          > >

                          > > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.

                          > >

                          > > Happy fishing and many a tight line

                          > >

                          > > Regards Carl.

                          > >

                          > > Rock Lobster Pot

                          > >

                          > > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.

                          > >

                          > > Specifications

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Maximum width:

                          > >

                          > > 1.5 metre

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Maximum height:

                          > >

                          > > 1.2 metre

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Maximum number permitted:

                          > >

                          > > 2

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Marking:

                          > >

                          > > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > A current registration tag

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Mouth of the pot:

                          > >

                          > > The mouth must be at the top

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Escape gaps:

                          > >

                          > > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Distance:

                          > >

                          > > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Minimum size of escape gaps:

                          > >

                          > > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > If no escape gaps:

                          > >

                          > > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > lobster7tag

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk

                          > > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM

                          > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

                          > > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > >

                          > > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We

                          > > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I

                          > > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like

                          > > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!

                          > >

                          > > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and

                          > > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived

                          > > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook

                          > > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.

                          > >

                          > > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email

                          > > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!

                          > >

                          > > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

                          >

                          > Hello Bev,

                          >

                          > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.

                          >

                          > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?

                          >

                          > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.

                          >

                          > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.

                          >

                          > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.

                          >

                          > Wayne

                          > >

                          > > ________________________________

                          > > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@ <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >

                          > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>

                          > > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM

                          > > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps

                          > >

                          > > Hello Everyone,

                          > >

                          > > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in

                          > > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the

                          > > world.

                          > >

                          > > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with

                          > > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the

                          > > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been

                          > > out of business for over two years.

                          > >

                          > > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching

                          > > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be

                          > > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to

                          > > build my own.

                          > >

                          > > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the

                          > > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he

                          > > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of

                          > > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original

                          > > traps.

                          > >

                          > > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large

                          > > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope

                          > > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very

                          > > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and

                          > > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.

                          > >

                          > > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and

                          > > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the

                          > > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.

                          > >

                          > > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something

                          > > by the end of March or early April.

                          > >

                          > > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and

                          > > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River

                          > > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.

                          > >

                          > > Wayne

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                          Attention Stuart I live in Central Queensland( Australia) I have redclaw in my Re-circ aquaculture system. They grow in my biofiltration tanks. They survive on
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                            Attention Stuart



                            I live in Central Queensland( Australia)

                            I have redclaw in my Re-circ aquaculture system.

                            They grow in my biofiltration tanks.

                            They survive on the waste from the fish( SleepyCod)

                            Mine are a blue variety.I sell them to the aquarium trade.



                            I am interested in the tank system you are using.

                            Can you post some photos?



                            Richard Tan

                            Biloela Q4715



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                          • Stuart Large
                            Hi Richard. Sure but you will have to wait a while, my digital camera is bust, I need to buy a new one. Do you get good price from aquarium people?  regards
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                              Hi Richard.
                              Sure but you will have to wait a while, my digital camera is bust, I need to buy a new one.
                              Do you get good price from aquarium people?
                               regards Stuart

                              --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Richard Tan <rtan@...> wrote:

                              From: Richard Tan <rtan@...>
                              Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                              To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 3:49 AM







                               









                              Attention Stuart



                              I live in Central Queensland( Australia)



                              I have redclaw in my Re-circ aquaculture system.



                              They grow in my biofiltration tanks.



                              They survive on the waste from the fish( SleepyCod)



                              Mine are a blue variety.I sell them to the aquarium trade.



                              I am interested in the tank system you are using.



                              Can you post some photos?



                              Richard Tan



                              Biloela Q4715



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                            • wayne.lammers
                              Stewart, Thanks for the great information. Sounds like you have a very serious system that is working well for you. You should consider writing a pamphlet or
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                                Stewart,

                                Thanks for the great information. Sounds like you have a very serious system that is working well for you. You should consider writing a pamphlet or small book on your system and include pictures. I would be first in line to buy one.
                                --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > Hi Wayne. No I think it would be too difficult to ship live crayfish that far, but I know they are available in the US, I read about it on the net, Florida I think, and also auburn university did some trials.
                                > My Tanks 40ft long 6ft wide, and split into two sections, I keep Tilapia in the top section and redclaw in the bottom with two pipes connecting them, I have a pump in the bottom section, and pump water thro a filter to the top one, which overflows via the pipes back to the bottom section, several times a week I close the pipes and fill the top section up to the top, then open up again, this flushes all the sediment on the bottom, stopping it from going stale and toxic, and allow some clear concrete flooring as the crays seem to prefer eating on the clean hard bottom.
                                > I feed mainly rice bran and some boiled veg plants, I used to also give trash fish and crushed snails. but now they wont eat them, I think the reason being is, feeding such a high carbohydrate diet (rice bran) has changed the balance of the water, now I have no green plankton and the water has turn clear but with a yellow/brown colour which indicates to me that I must have a high load of heterotrophic bacteria, which the crays must be eating, getting all their protein requirements that way.
                                > The tanks have porous coral rock  in the nursery tanks for the baby crays to hide in. and the growout tanks have got hollow concrete blocks instead. which is important they need to hide away when they moult and would not be comfortable with out them.
                                > Look on the net I'm sure you will be able to find some somwhere. good luck.
                                >
                                > Regards Stuart
                                >
                                > --- On Wed, 1/12/11, wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>
                                > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                                > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                                > Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 5:55 PM
                                >
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                                > Stewart,
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA?
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Wayne
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@> wrote:
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Hi People.
                                >
                                > > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.
                                >
                                > > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.
                                >
                                > > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.
                                >
                                > > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.
                                >
                                > > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Regards Stuart
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@> wrote:
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@>
                                >
                                > > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                                >
                                > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                                >
                                > > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Hi everyone.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >   My name is Randy and I  live in Vancouver Canada.  One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters
                                >
                                > > in this part of the Pacific  Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab  30 to 60 feet down.   For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >   On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they  can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called
                                >
                                > > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.
                                >
                                > > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't  catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.
                                >
                                > > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.
                                >
                                > >   Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia
                                >
                                > > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.  One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another
                                >
                                > > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >    Bye for now
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                                >
                                > > From: cwlammers@
                                >
                                > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000
                                >
                                > > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >  
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Hello Carl,
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Happy fishing,
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > Wayne
                                >
                                > >
                                >
                                > > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@> wrote:
                                >
                                > > >
                                >
                                > > > Hello there.
                                >
                                > > >
                                >
                                > > > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.
                                >
                                > > >
                                >
                                > > > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.
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                                > > > Regards Carl.
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                                > > > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email
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                              • Darrin Vernier
                                Some things pop up where you least expect them. Some Walmarts have a few rows of aquariums and sell blue lobsters . Our local one emptied their tanks for a
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                                  Some things pop up where you least expect them. Some Walmarts have a few rows of aquariums and sell 'blue lobsters'. Our local one emptied their tanks for a while recently due to a remodel but before that they carried them for a couple years and likely will again. I expected them to be a color variation of US native clarki until a neighbor showed me one he'd bought at Walmart that was probably about 10". Clearly too large for a US species and extremely likely an Australian one. If you have a Walmart nearby with aquariums it can't hurt to look and they might even order some for you. Just don't tell them what they really are. ; )

                                  Darrin


                                  To: crayfish@yahoogroups.comFrom: cwlammers@...: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:10:22 +0000Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps




                                  Stewart,Thanks for the great information. Sounds like you have a very serious system that is working well for you. You should consider writing a pamphlet or small book on your system and include pictures. I would be first in line to buy one.--- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@...> wrote:>> Hi Wayne. No I think it would be too difficult to ship live crayfish that far, but I know they are available in the US, I read about it on the net, Florida I think, and also auburn university did some trials.> My Tanks 40ft long 6ft wide, and split into two sections, I keep Tilapia in the top section and redclaw in the bottom with two pipes connecting them, I have a pump in the bottom section, and pump water thro a filter to the top one, which overflows via the pipes back to the bottom section, several times a week I close the pipes and fill the top section up to the top, then open up again, this flushes all the sediment on the bottom, stopping it from going stale and toxic, and allow some clear concrete flooring as the crays seem to prefer eating on the clean hard bottom.> I feed mainly rice bran and some boiled veg plants, I used to also give trash fish and crushed snails. but now they wont eat them, I think the reason being is, feeding such a high carbohydrate diet (rice bran) has changed the balance of the water, now I have no green plankton and the water has turn clear but with a yellow/brown colour which indicates to me that I must have a high load of heterotrophic bacteria, which the crays must be eating, getting all their protein requirements that way.> The tanks have porous coral rock� in the nursery tanks for the baby crays to hide in. and the growout tanks have got hollow concrete blocks instead. which is important they need to hide away when they moult and would not be comfortable with out them.> Look on the net I'm sure you will be able to find some somwhere. good luck.> > Regards Stuart> > --- On Wed, 1/12/11, wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...> wrote:> > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>> Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps> To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com> Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 5:55 PM> > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > Stewart,> > > > Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA?> > > > Wayne> > > > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi People.> > > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.> > > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.> > > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.> > > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.> > > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.> > > > > > Regards Stuart> > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@> wrote:> > > > > > From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@>> > > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps> > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone.> > > > > > ��� My name is Randy and I��� live in Vancouver Canada.��� One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters > > > in this part of the Pacific��� Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab��� 30 to 60 feet down.��� ��� ��� For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.> > > > > > ��� On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they��� can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called > > > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.> > > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't��� catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.> > > > > > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.> > > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.> > > ��� Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia > > > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.> > > > > > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.��� One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another> > > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.> > > > > > ��� ��� ��� Bye for now> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com> > > From: cwlammers@> > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000> > > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps> > > > > > > > > ��� > > > > > > > > > Hello Carl,> > > > > > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good. > > > > > > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them. > > > > > > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.> > > > > > Happy fishing,> > > > > > Wayne> > > > > > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello there.> > > > > > > > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.> > > > > > > > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.> > > > > > > > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.> > > > > > > > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.> > > > > > > > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.> > > > > > > > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray��������s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.> > > > > > > > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.> > > > > > > > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass > > > > > > > > of empty Cray I��������ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.> > > > > > > > Also there��������s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot> > > > > > > > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.> > > > > > > > Happy fishing and many a tight line> > > > > > > > Regards Carl.> > > > > > > > Rock Lobster Pot> > > > > > > > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.> > > > > > > > Specifications > > > > > > > > > > > > Maximum width:> > > > > > > > 1.5 metre> > > > > > > > > > > > Maximum height:> > > > > > > > 1.2 metre> > > > > > > > > > > > Maximum number permitted:> > > > > > > > 2> > > > > > > > > > > > Marking:> > > > > > > > 1 red buoy, volume 4 litres> > > > > > > > > > > > A current registration tag> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouth of the pot:> > > > > > > > The mouth must be at the top> > > > > > > > > > > > Escape gaps:> > > > > > > > 2 escape gaps on opposite sides of the pot> > > > > > > > > > > > Distance:> > > > > > > > he tops of the escape gaps must be no more than 11 cm from the base of the pot> > > > > > > > > > > > Minimum size of escape gaps:> > > > > > > > 15 cm wide by 5.5 cm high> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If no escape gaps:> > > > > > > > The pot must be covered in a mesh that will allow a cylindrical rod 5 cm in diameter to easily pass through> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lobster7tag> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk> > > > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM> > > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We > > > > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I > > > > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like > > > > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!> > > > > > > > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and > > > > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived > > > > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook > > > > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.> > > > > > > > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email > > > > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!> > > > > > > > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska> > > > > > Hello Bev,> > > > > > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.> > > > > > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?> > > > > > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps. > > > > > > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are. > > > > > > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.> > > > > > Wayne> > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@ <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >> > > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM> > > > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps> > > > > > > > Hello Everyone,> > > > > > > > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in > > > > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the > > > > world. > > > > > > > > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with > > > > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the > > > > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been > > > > out of business for over two years. > > > > > > > > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching > > > > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be > > > > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to > > > > build my own. > > > > > > > > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the > > > > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he > > > > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of > > > > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original > > > > traps. > > > > > > > > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large > > > > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope > > > > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very > > > > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and > > > > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone. > > > > > > > > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and > > > > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the > > > > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap. > > > > > > > > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something > > > > by the end of March or early April. > > > > > > > > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and > > > > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River > > > > for crayfish. 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                                • Stuart Large
                                  Hi Wayne. Thank you for your reply, But you should know that I am an amateur and I am still very much in the experimental stage, so far it s gone well for me,
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                                    Hi Wayne.
                                    Thank you for your reply, But you should know that I am an amateur and I am still very much in the experimental stage, so far it's gone well for me, but who knows I could have a catastrophy next week.
                                    It would take several years of consistent and stable results before I could consider publishing anything.
                                    However I dont mind answering questions and giving advice from what I have learned.
                                    Regards Stuart

                                    --- On Thu, 1/13/11, wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...> wrote:

                                    From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>
                                    Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps
                                    To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Thursday, 13 January, 2011, 8:10 PM







                                     











                                    Stewart,



                                    Thanks for the great information. Sounds like you have a very serious system that is working well for you. You should consider writing a pamphlet or small book on your system and include pictures. I would be first in line to buy one.

                                    --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@...> wrote:

                                    >

                                    > Hi Wayne. No I think it would be too difficult to ship live crayfish that far, but I know they are available in the US, I read about it on the net, Florida I think, and also auburn university did some trials.

                                    > My Tanks 40ft long 6ft wide, and split into two sections, I keep Tilapia in the top section and redclaw in the bottom with two pipes connecting them, I have a pump in the bottom section, and pump water thro a filter to the top one, which overflows via the pipes back to the bottom section, several times a week I close the pipes and fill the top section up to the top, then open up again, this flushes all the sediment on the bottom, stopping it from going stale and toxic, and allow some clear concrete flooring as the crays seem to prefer eating on the clean hard bottom.

                                    > I feed mainly rice bran and some boiled veg plants, I used to also give trash fish and crushed snails. but now they wont eat them, I think the reason being is, feeding such a high carbohydrate diet (rice bran) has changed the balance of the water, now I have no green plankton and the water has turn clear but with a yellow/brown colour which indicates to me that I must have a high load of heterotrophic bacteria, which the crays must be eating, getting all their protein requirements that way.

                                    > The tanks have porous coral rock  in the nursery tanks for the baby crays to hide in. and the growout tanks have got hollow concrete blocks instead. which is important they need to hide away when they moult and would not be comfortable with out them.

                                    > Look on the net I'm sure you will be able to find some somwhere. good luck.

                                    >

                                    > Regards Stuart

                                    >

                                    > --- On Wed, 1/12/11, wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...> wrote:

                                    >

                                    > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@...>

                                    > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

                                    > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

                                    > Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 5:55 PM

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                                    > Stewart,

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                                    > Sure would like to hear more about your Red Claw tanks. Is it possible for you to export small Red Claw to the USA?

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                                    > Wayne

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                                    > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Large <stuartlarge@> wrote:

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                                    > >

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                                    > > Hi People.

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                                    > > I live in Philippines and I raise Australian Redclaw crayfish in concrete tanks for food.

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                                    > > I am still improving my techniques but can raise crayfish from egg to eating size ( about 10 inches including claws) in about 6 to 8 months at a density of 10 per sq meter.

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                                    > > They are wonderful creatures, taste delicious with the highest amount of tail meat per size of any crayfish, tolerate crowded conditions without cannabilism (as long as you provide plenty of food and hiding places) are omniverous and not fussy with their food, mine are fed with cheap vegetable items, plus they breed like crazy a female can carry 800 eggs at the age of 6 months and breed all year round.

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                                    > > I find it strange but have searched the net, and can find no-one else who is doing the same.

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                                    > > If any of you are interested drop me an email and I will tell you my set up and the techniques I use.

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                                    > > Regards Stuart

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                                    > > --- On Tue, 1/11/11, randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@> wrote:

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                                    > > From: randy mescaniuk <mescaniuk@>

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                                    > > Subject: RE: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

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                                    > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

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                                    > > Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 6:42 AM

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                                    > > Hi everyone.

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                                    > >   My name is Randy and I  live in Vancouver Canada.  One of my favorite hobbies is prawn fishing in the ocean. We don't have lobsters

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                                    > > in this part of the Pacific  Ocean but you can easily catch Dungoness and Rock Crab  30 to 60 feet down.   For prawns you have to go down 300 to 350. this makes it very adventurous since you are farther from land and the waves can get pretty big.

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                                    > >   On year I came up with the idea of putting a trap down in fresh water and sure enough I caught crayfish. I didn't know much about them at the time but they  can be canabalistic and willfight to the death for territory. I ended up with seven or eight aquariums going. I called

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                                    > > them fresh water lobsters so that people wouldn't think I was wierd like a guy who has pet spiders.

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                                    > > I have several types of prawn traps and the cheap square ones don't  catch prawns. I have never had a problem catching crayfish with these inexpensive traps.

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                                    > > The Crayfish we catch here are the Pacificastus Giganticus the largest in North America but nothing like the sizes they have in Australia.

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                                    > > They are often called Signal Crays and they grow up to 5i nches with their arms reaching longer. I have heard of these Crayfish in California, Montana and Alberta Canada but I don,t know their full area of their habitat. I have also heard of other Crayfish in the Eastern U.S.A. that grow to around 5 inches. I think the person used another name but they might be the same.

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                                    > >   Unfortunately there is almost no meat in the tail of the Pacific Giant Crayfish but there is a fair bit in their large claws. As a result people don't raise them commercially. Another reason is that they take 5 years to reach maturity instead of 3. In the Province of British Columbia

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                                    > > I have only heard of 2 commercial operations that raise crayfish or freshwater shrimp.

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                                    > > In the province of B.C. Canada, for recreational crayfishing, there is no restriction on the amount or type of traps. Also no restriction on the season when you can trap Crayfish.  One year I got wind of a commercial harvest of wild crayfish. I phoned the Department of Fisheries to find out about getting a lisence. The officer informed me that it was an experimental opening and there will never be another

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                                    > > commercial harvest. I asked if thatwas because threre was no market for the product or the harvest interferred with the cycle of reproduction. He would only say that there will never be a commercial harvest of Crayfish again.

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                                    > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

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                                    > > From: cwlammers@

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                                    > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:50:48 +0000

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                                    > > Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps

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                                    > > Hello Carl,

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                                    > > Yes, we call your crayfish Lobsters. My favorite food in the world is Main Lobster. I used to import them from Noank Connecticut to Little Rock, Arkansas. I could always hear them scratching around in the refrigerator at night. Never ate so good in my life. I am sure yours are just as good.

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                                    > > I have looked at your Red Claw crawfish, I believe it is called. They grow so big, like four to the pound, but winter temps here make it an expensive deal to raise them.

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                                    > > Hope I am posting these replies correctly. I am new, so if I am doing it wrong, someone please tell me.

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                                    > > Happy fishing,

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                                    > > Wayne

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                                    > > --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Hofstee" <hofstee@> wrote:

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                                    > > > Hello there.

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                                    > > > My name is Carl Hofstee and I live in Adelaide South Australia.

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                                    > > > I do like to fish for Crayfish or as you might know them better as Lobster I think.

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                                    > > > As a recreational fisher we are allowed to register 2 pots and catch 4 Crayfish per day.

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                                    > > > Here there is a closed season from April through till end of September.

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                                    > > > We are allowed to use fish offal only as bait or a whole fish, which we attach to inside of pot.

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                                    > > > The Cray pots are round in design with a opening at the top and 2 escape holes for undersized Cray’s ,the pots are covered with a wire mesh and the opening ring is made out of plastic.

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                                    > > > We set the Cray pots late in afternoon as close as possible to a rocky outcrop or reef and haul them up first thing in the morning.

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                                    > > > Sometimes a Octopus will get to them before we do , so all you pull up then is a carcass

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                                    > > > of empty Cray I’ll will attach a picture of our Crayfish we catch here.

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                                    > > > Also there’s a picture of a plastic collapsible pot

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                                    > > > I hope this is of some benefit to you all.

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                                    > > > Happy fishing and many a tight line

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                                    > > > Regards Carl.

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                                    > > > Rock Lobster Pot

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                                    > > > All rock lobster pots must be registered and can only be used for personal use.

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                                    > > > Specifications

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                                    > > > From: crayfish@yahoogroups.com [mailto:crayfish@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bev Kirk

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                                    > > > Sent: Monday, 10 January 2011 4:41 PM

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                                    > > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com

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                                    > > > Subject: Re: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps

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                                    > > > Wow - fascinating! We lived in Vicksburg, MS from 12-76 to 6-78. We

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                                    > > > family-fished in the Miss River for crayfish and whatever else there, but I

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                                    > > > don't recall ever even watching or seeing commercial crayfishermen. Seems like

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                                    > > > I heard of catfish the size of Volkswagons!

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                                    > > > I grew up in the Catskills on a remote farm in Delaware County (upstate NY), and

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                                    > > > we caught a lot of crayfish there, but just for family eating. We largely lived

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                                    > > > off of the land - whitetail deer, black bear, rabbits, partridge, a lot of brook

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                                    > > > trout, eels, perch, etc. We ate all kinds of berries, wild apples, etc.

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                                    > > > I wish you well in your innovative venture, Wayne. Please keep me on your email

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                                    > > > list so I can rejoice with you in your success! Thanks!

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                                    > > > Bev Kirk, Chugiak, Alaska

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                                    > > Hello Bev,

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                                    > > I love Alaska. I worked there the last 7 years of my working life escorting Super Tankers in and out of Valdez, Alaska. That's where I blew out my mitral valve and had to retire after the surgery.

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                                    > > I would be interested in hearing more about your crawfishing in the Mississippi River. What kind of traps did you use and what kind of bait?

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                                    > > I hope to use a drag net I have to catch shad on the lake and river for bait. I have made a lot of extra bait boxes so I can fill and freeze them before running the traps.

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                                    > > I have been an outdoors man all my life and do a lot of fishing for catfish now. My youngest son and I have averaged 50 lbs per day for catfish at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas, about one hour from Memphis. Our best fish last trip was 22 lbs. Some people don't think the big ones are good to eat, but I assure you they are.

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                                    > > We sure won't be doing any fishing today. We are showed in . . . I will keep everyone up to date on the progress of my little venture and will post pictures of the traps later.

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                                    > > Wayne

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                                    > > > From: wayne.lammers <cwlammers@ <mailto:cwlammers%40comcast.net> >

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                                    > > > To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com <mailto:crayfish%40yahoogroups.com>

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                                    > > > Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 7:44:43 PM

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                                    > > > Subject: [crayfish] Wild Crayfish Traps

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                                    > > > Hello Everyone,

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                                    > > > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in

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                                    > > > catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the

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                                    > > > world.

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                                    > > > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with

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                                    > > > the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the

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                                    > > > world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been

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                                    > > > out of business for over two years.

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                                    > > > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching

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                                    > > > crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be

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                                    > > > found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to

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                                    > > > build my own.

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                                    > > > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the

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                                    > > > best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he

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                                    > > > said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of

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                                    > > > changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original

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                                    > > > traps.

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                                    > > >

                                    >

                                    > > > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large

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                                    > > > holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope

                                    >

                                    > > > walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very

                                    >

                                    > > > small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and

                                    >

                                    > > > better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.

                                    >

                                    > > >

                                    >

                                    > > > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and

                                    >

                                    > > > use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the

                                    >

                                    > > > wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.

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                                    > > >

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                                    > > > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something

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                                    > > > by the end of March or early April.

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                                    > > > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and

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                                    > > > especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River

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                                    > > > for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.

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                                    > > > Wayne

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                                  • memphisgirl39
                                    What about horseshoe lake. Have you ever caught any there?
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                                      What about horseshoe lake. Have you ever caught any there?

                                      --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "wayne.lammers" <cwlammers@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Hello Everyone,
                                      >
                                      > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the world.
                                      >
                                      > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been out of business for over two years.
                                      >
                                      > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to build my own.
                                      >
                                      > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original traps.
                                      >
                                      > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                                      >
                                      > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                                      >
                                      > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something by the end of March or early April.
                                      >
                                      > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish and especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi River for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                                      >
                                      > Wayne
                                      >
                                    • Bev Kirk
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                                        Good luck! I'll be interested to read your upcoming posts. ~Bev





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                                        From: memphisgirl39 <dctn_2005@...>
                                        To: crayfish@yahoogroups.com
                                        Sent: Sun, May 15, 2011 10:13:07 PM
                                        Subject: [crayfish] Re: Wild Crayfish Traps


                                        What about horseshoe lake. Have you ever caught any there?

                                        --- In crayfish@yahoogroups.com, "wayne.lammers" <cwlammers@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > Hello Everyone,
                                        >
                                        > My name is Wayne Lammers from Memphis, Tennessee. My primary interest is in
                                        >catching wild crayfish, actually we call them crawfish in this part of the
                                        >world.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I plan to be fishing Reelfoot Lake in north west Tennessee in the spring with
                                        >the 45 traps I have almost ready. I wanted to buy traps from Terry at the
                                        >world's best crayfish traps in Oregon, but due to family sickness he has been
                                        >out of business for over two years.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > All of my research tells me that Terry probably knows more about catching
                                        >crayfish than any person alive, and I am convinced his traps are the best to be
                                        >found. But when his site continued to remain closed, I decided I would have to
                                        >build my own.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I started by reading his history on his site. Then, since I think he has the
                                        >best traps, I tried to duplicate his traps as close as possible. Everything he
                                        >said made perfect sense to me. In looking for material I made a couple of
                                        >changes to his design that I now think will be even better than his original
                                        >traps.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I never did like the cones made of netting he uses. They seem like the large
                                        >holes would make it hard for the crayfish to walk on, sort of like a tight-rope
                                        >walker. I found a heavy plastic sheet netting that is very stiff and has very
                                        >small holes in it that should make it easier for the crawfish to walk on, and
                                        >better create the illusion of safety for them in the cone.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > The stiff cone allowed me to eliminate the rubber bands between the cones and
                                        >use Velcro to fasten a 2" piece of PVC pipe to the cone and also include the
                                        >wire guard to keep crayfish in the trap.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Only time will testify to the value of these traps, but I should know something
                                        >by the end of March or early April.
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I would like to talk to anyone who has ever fished commercially for crayfish
                                        >and especially anyone who has ever fished Reelfoot Lake, or the Mississippi
                                        >River for crayfish. I will try to answer all questions I am asked.
                                        >
                                        > Wayne
                                        >




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