Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Looking for a Biblical defense of women not voti...
The wife and I were recently of Southern Baptist and non-
denominational background and I have certainly seen the problems
caused by unbiblical female influence. However, though you have some
good personal reasons for women not to exercise extensive unbiblical
influence over a church should all women not have any voice in
congregational matters?? Do we seriously think that John's "elect
lady" or Lydia should be excluded from helping decide congregational
issues? A quick look at the old testament gives us Debra, Esther as
well as several women noted as prophetesses also.
Without question, there ought to be clear leadership of men in any
church setting. That being said, My wife is directed to be submissive
to me and the elders in the church other than that she is not
directed to be submissive to any other man. Most reformed churches
are governed in a presbyterian manner; in that form of government the
right of the ruler to govern is assumed to be derived from the
consent of the governed. I represent my wife and approve of the men
that rule over us both; this works fine assuming that the woman is
married. What about the widow who has no representative voting her??
Is she to submit to men that she has no right to vote for?? How can
our reformed pastors plead with our congregations, including the
women, to go out and vote for their civic leaders and not allow them
to have any say within the church??
Also, as an Army guy, I am out of town regularly. My wife is my
executive officer. She is authorized by me, her covenant head and
commanding officer, to conduct deals (she has bought cars, sold
houses, etc.), make all decisions on my behalf, and most important of
all is responsible for the CHristian training and discipline of my
children. This woman to whom I have delegated this massive level of
responsibility is somehow not capable of knowing how I would vote in
a deacon election. As a result of not allowing women to vote
families like mine would be without a vote around 25-50% of the time.
Bottom line, I fully support head of household voting on church
matters. However, the family chain of command ought to be followed
such that wives are allowed a vote as well if the husband is
But regardless, these arguments are nothing but a discussion at an
elders meeting unless someone can show through logical reasoning from
scripture that appropriate church government excludes women from
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> My husband and I have recently become reformed. Being in a Baptist
> all of our lives this has been quite a shock to our spirituallives. Anyway,
> in the past few years we have come to the conclusion that thehusband as the
> head of the household vote for the family. There was an instancewhere we
> were voting in a deacon in our church. I did not feel that thisman should
> be a deacon. Biblically I didn't think that he had thequalifications. I
> didn't want to be put in the position of voting one way or theother. My
> husband and I decided from then on that he would vote for the wholefamily.
> There are many inmportant decisions that need to made in thechurch. Women
> tend to think more emotionally than a man. It just makes more senseto let
> our God given heads make the decisions.
> This may or may not make sense, but I hope it might help a little.
> God bless,