[Covenanted Reformation] Re: Bigoted Calvinists
Uh, I am sorry to have to correct a misunderstaning my new friend ,
but the view that the United States of America is an ungodly,
athietistical, antichristian and covenant-breaking constitution of
Government is NOT the peculiar province of the "Barrows Boys": please,
Please see Samuel Wylie's Two Sons of Oil first published in 1803
I have enjoyed "America's Caesar" thus far, though I hate reading it
on line, but I'm to frugal (& broke) to buy a hardcopy (that is,
unless you have a hardcover copy around somewhere. I do hate wasting
money on softcover. They won't weather long in the "Britton Posterity
Library," ya know?)
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> At 01:38 PM 12/2/02 -0800, you wrote:are not
> >I too can dig up some beautiful prayers from Oliver Cromwell (that
> >usurper), King James I & II, King Charles I & II, etc.
> >My point is that the USA is in breach of the SL&C. Presbyterians
> >supposed to pledge alligence to this Constitution nor fight for itsnamely
> >armies. The same would hold true to the CSA. But I no longer care to
> >talk about this issue, most have ignored the root cause of it all:
> >the rejection of the SL&C and it's obligation upon this State & Church.
> Not everyone accepts the theories of the Barrow brothers.
> Libertas inestimabilis res est,
> Greg Loren Durand
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> Lisa Regina (wife of 9 years)
> Father of:
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- Dear all,
I didn't think the two questions I asked had been addressed fully. I
note a response from Christopher below, but I would much appreciate
any other light that anyone can throw on this.
> . . . Are you saying that it would beand
> impermissible for me as a Brit to become an Amercian Citizen if it so
> be possible at some point that such an opportunity were presented to
> me if I have to swear and oath to become one?
> . . . I'm merely asking(that it would not be appropriate, or even worse, - actually
> whether that is an established fact of that which would need to be
> sworn in the case of, say, becoming a US citizen.
> If someone did neither, i.e. did not understand themselves to beChristopher replied:
> bound by either the N.C. or the S.L.&C., would you say this still
> applied to them?
> Suppose an Iranian believer (a man say) was to be married to a
> British subject, would it be wrong for the British wife /
> wife-to-be to become an Iranian citizen?
> Afaik, such a course would be permissible, since the politicalBut I'm not sure I understood the answer.
> dissent of the "Steelites" applies only to the current nations and
> colonies of the 3 Kingdoms and not to the vassal states (which are
> Legion)of the British Empire. Besides, over and above that, it is
> the sort of oath you have to swear (semi-independent of covenant-
> considerations) that matters. Is is qualified, or unqualified
> loyalty (requiring an implicit faith)?
If the state was not a "vassal state", would anything apply from the
SL&C? I can't see how.
What sort of country-allegiance-oath would be acceptable, and what not
according to the Scriptures?
What about becoming a US citizen if one is already a citizen of, say,
the UK? (Indeed, what about becoming a citizen of the UK if one is
already a citizen of another country (and, one not "tied" to the UK or
Seeking further clarification in the light of the Scriptures.
(BTW: I'm not asking these questions simply to sound confounding, I
have a real reason on the part of people who may face such issues in
In Christ's Precious Name,