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Re: Did someone call me a redneck?

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  • seamrog1935
    Mr. Wilkerson is right about the Irish then he got to Covenanter history, which I think he seemingly butchered. Whit/Patrick ... the ... Ozarks ... Prince ...
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 6 2:58 PM
      Mr. Wilkerson is right about the Irish then he got to Covenanter
      history, which I think he seemingly butchered.

      --- In covenantedreformationclub@y..., thebishopsdoom <no_reply@y...>
      > I'm not pasing this along because I think its true, but because it
      > is, well, just... too bizarre!
      > And you just might find out, that you might be...
      > --------------------------------------------------------------
      > By Todd J. Wilkinson
      > Vice-President, Celtic Society of the Ozarks
      > Many words commonly used in America today have their origins in our
      > Celtic roots. While the following terms are associated today with
      > American South and southern culture, their origins are distinctly
      > Scottish and Ulster-Scottish (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass
      > immigration of Scottish Lowland and Ulster Presbyterians to America
      > during the 1700's.
      > The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the
      > and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often
      > incorrectly labeled "Scots-Irish") settlers in the
      > hill-country of
      > Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new
      > world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William,
      > of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart
      > family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.
      > Supporters of King William were known as "Orangemen" and
      > "Billy Boys"
      > and their North American counterparts were soon referred to
      as "hill-
      > billies". It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the
      > Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, "Hurrah!
      > Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!" and shares its tune with the famous
      > American Civil War song, "Marching Through Georgia".
      > REDNECK
      > The origins of this term are Scottish and refer to supporters of
      > National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant,
      > or "Covenanters", largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would
      > flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by
      > the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the
      > documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form
      > church government and would not accept the Church of England as its
      > official state church.
      > Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of
      > cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the
      term "Red
      > neck", which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish
      > immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian
      > minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red
      > clerical collar -- is this symbolic of the "rednecks"?
      > Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the
      > were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later,
      > their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use
      > comes from 1830, when an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name
      > bestowed upon the Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the
      > originators of the ever-present "redneck" joke are aware of the
      > term's origins?
      > ------------------------------------------------------------
      > -thebishopsdoom
      > (Oh, and for the terminally curious who feel they absolutely have
      > know, according to wordorigins.org:
      > "Redneck dates to 1830, when it was first used to denote the
      > Presbyterians of Fayetteville. The significance of the name is
      > somewhat obscure. Three explanations are commonly offered. First,
      > could be a reference to a ruddy neck caused by anger. Second, it
      > could be a reference to sunburned necks caused by working in the
      > fields all day. Finally, it could be a reference to pellagra which
      > turns the neck red.
      > There is also a tale in which it referred to striking coal miners
      > tale who wore red bandannas a means of group identification. This
      > unlikely due to what we know of its origin. The sunburn or pellagra
      > explanation seems more likely than the anger one.
      > Interestingly, the Afrikaans Rooinek, which literally means
      > is a disparaging term the Boers used to apply to the British and
      > later became associated with any European immigrant to South
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