Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: Psalmody

Expand Messages
  • thedatarat
    * psalms and hymns and spiritual songs If these are all five terms for the same thing (Psalmody), the use of repetition can only be
    Message 1 of 734 , May 24, 2001
      *<br><br>"psalms and hymns and spiritual
      songs"<br><br><br><br>If these are all five terms for the same
      thing<br>(Psalmody), the use of repetition can only be
      for<br>emphasis. The Calvinist Rodent sees no purpose in<br>this
      passage for making an emphasis.<br><br>More likely, the
      five terms...<br><br>psalmos ("psalms" but not
      necessarily THE Psalms),<br><br>humnos ("religious
      song"),<br><br>pneumatikos oide ("non-carnal lyrics"),<br><br>aido
      ("singing" generally)<br><br>psallo ("accompany with
      instrumental melody")<br><br>...denote lyrics sung with
      instrumental<br>accompaniment. Your favorite rodent will grant<br>psalmos as
      referring to the Psalms (although<br>~that~ isn't
      absolutely clear).<br><br>Yet, notice that each of these
      five terms is<br>seperated by the Greek word kai. This
      can mean<br>"and", "also", "both", "but", "even",
      "for", "if",<br>"or", "so", "that", "then", "therefore",
      "when",<br>"yet".<br><br>Bro. Rat thinks we can rule out "for", "if",<br>"so",
      "therefore", "even", and "yet" by context.<br>The verse would
      be nonsensical with any of these.<br> <br>Probably
      "that", "when", and "also" as well. If<br>psalmos regards
      The Psalms, then kai humnos would<br>be a stupid
      qualifier.<br><br>The only two meaning for kai which seem
      applicable<br>are "and" and "also". In either usage, we
      have<br>Ephesians 5:18 allowing several divergent musical<br>forms
      ...of which The Psalms are only one.<br><br>Either
      THAT, or these five terms with kai between<br>them are
      a rhetorical device employing redunancy<br>to
      emphasize the point. Using five terms merely<br>for
      emphasis has no Biblical parallel El Raton is<br>aware of.
      And, the context of the verse doesn't<br>seem to
      indicate any compelling reason for Paul<br>to make such an
      emphasis.<br><br><br>The DataRat<br><br><br><br>*
    • almo_no1
      prayers are easy gmw, you ve got em.
      Message 734 of 734 , Sep 18, 2001
        prayers are easy gmw, you've got 'em.
      Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.