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Re: [Covenanted Reformation] First covenant

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  • James J
    Hello... ... . I am its author. . ... . In so many words, yes. . ... . Same reasons I already stated. . ... . Would you be of a mind to differentiate between
    Message 1 of 34 , Feb 28, 2009
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      gmw wrote:
      > Yes, that is a small part of the description, and MOST of the members
      > of this group do not profess to be Covenanters. However, the other
      > portions of the description note...
      > "The Covenanted Reformation Club is a place to discuss the True
      > Religion as revealed in God's Word, //set forth in the Westminster
      > Standards,// //sworn to in the Solemn League and Covenant,// and
      > adhered to by the best Reformers, Puritans, and Covenanters, " and...
      > "this will //not// be a forum for declaring heretical views or for
      > attacking the //Covenanted Reformation or the principles thereof.//
      > Now, seeing as you are apparently the author of this piece of work
      > that proports to demonstrate that Covenant Theology is unbiblical
      > (http://home. paonline. com/jamesjay/ CThers.htm
      > <http://home.paonline.com/jamesjay/CThers.htm>),
      I am its author.
      > and that you announced
      > your presence here by denying that God made covenants before His
      > covenant with Noah,
      In so many words, yes.
      > I again ask you why you are posting in this forum
      Same reasons I already stated.
      > which is clearly NOT for attacking the principles outlined in the
      > Westminster Standards, and maintained by the historic Covenanters?
      Would you be of a mind to differentiate between "attack" and "question
      and examine in the light of Scripture"? I like to think I take the
      latter view. Remember Luther!
      I believe folks should never ever abandon an "open mind" and always be
      willing to examine and re-examine any and all doctrine by the Bible. I
      have had to make several corrections over the years by doing so myself.
      Acts 17:11

      James Kirby
    • Brian Mericle
      Thanks Charles. I was not aware of that. I only caught some of this comments and went to the web site someone indicated that was his blog. I can see and do
      Message 34 of 34 , Mar 4, 2009
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        Thanks Charles. I was not aware of that. I only caught some of this comments and went to the web site someone indicated that was his blog. I can see and do believe that he was wrong but did not realize that he was not even adhering to basic Calvinistic Soteriology although possibly dis pen. I understand with what y'all are saying in other posts now, especially if someone is so far removed form basic orthodoxy, which I did not realize at the time that he thought all Puritan & Reformed thought was wrong. Thank you. Brian


        From: Charles Barden <cbarden@...>
        To: covenantedreformationclub@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:19:32 PM
        Subject: Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Re: First covenant


        It is my understanding that he subscribes to New Covenant Theology which as you know is anti-nomian. It is also my understanding that he is perhaps Freewill/General/ Arminian Baptist but not sure.


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Brian Mericle" <mericle.brian@ yahoo.com>
        To: covenantedreformati onclub@yahoogrou ps.com
        Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 2:13:12 PM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
        Subject: Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Re: First covenant

        I would be interested so as to more fully understand what & how you address these issues effectively although I strongly disagree with his premise and conclusions as they seem very deviant from tradtional orthodoxy as I understand it. The accusations on his web site are incredible and a bit venumois.

        I would recommend keeping a close monitor as he seems very argumentative with fixed ideas without a real willingness to really dialogue & learn. From his website I could not determine what church or denomination he is affliliated.

        Pardon my spelling as i have found the functionaility of the spell checker on my phone.

        Best regards,
        Brian Mericle

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:43 AM, "gmw" < ragingcalvinist@ verizon.net > wrote:

        If you guys want to debate him, I'll let his posts through for now...

        If you don't, I'll just boot him.

        I'll leave it up to the active membership for now. So, let me know
        yea or nay.

        From the posts I'm holding on to, he wants to take on Larry about
        logic, me about my believing there is such a thing as "the Lord's
        Day," and Edgar about Covenant Theology being a heresy.


        --- In covenantedreformati onclub@yahoogrou ps.com , "Ic Neltococayotl"
        <puritanpresbyteria n@...> wrote:
        > James-
        > For one who seeks to promote truth, why would you not want anyone to
        > find your site? I see a few things on your site that clash with
        > Reformed doctrines.
        > I am sure that CT would not be the only thing you will challenge on
        > forum, if given the opportunity.
        > By the way to call Covenant Theology heresy takes lots of, well,
        guts to
        > state. Heresy is usually set aside for those doctrines that are
        > damnable.
        > You may be a bit sloppy here in your classification bud. For
        example, I
        > believe my Baptist brothers are in ERROR when they deny Infant
        > but I would not say that their position is heretical. They are in
        > but not in heresy.
        > -Edgar
        > --- In covenantedreformati onclub@yahoogrou ps.com , James J
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > Hi;
        > >
        > > gmw wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Ben,
        > > >
        > > > Here's what he writes: http://home . paonline.. com/jamesjay/
        > > > < http://home .paonline.com/ jamesjay/ >
        > > >
        > > > I suspect he's here to promote that. But he already has a place
        > > > promote that. So, I asked him why he's posting this stuff here.
        > > > That's all.
        > > >
        > > > gmw.
        > > >
        > > >
        > > .
        > > Could I ask how you found my site please. It's not listed with
        any of
        > > the search engines like Google etc.
        > >
        > > Thanks;
        > > James Kirby
        > >

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