Re: [Covenanted Reformation] continuous singing
I NEVER thought you meant any difficulties... and anyone who says you do is gonna get a stern talking to from me.
(oh, and Dukes sounds good to me. When shall we look to do this?)
Jasper wrote:Please understand that I intend no difficulties for you, or for anyone here.
"gmw (who lives in Cleona now, EVEN CLOSER to you!)"
Ha! Now you're really applying the pressure
Actually I was thinking about Dukes in Hershey (former G-man), somewhat central -eh?
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As a tie-together, there was a recent post of interest in the Songs of
Zion Psalmody group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SongsofZion/ run by
Rev. Ferrell, pointing to a article about the accuracy of the Scottish
--- In email@example.com, Glenn Ferrell
>Interestingly, the Primitive (Calvinistic) Baptists and some other
> I grew up in the Appalachian region of Eastern Kentucky.
groups still line out their sung praise. They do not sing Psalms, but
the lining out sounds much like Scottish Highlanders singing Gaelic
Psalmody. Probably left over from the Ulster Scots who settled this
region. These folks follow the tradition of their fathers without
knowing why or where it is from. If one could introduce them to the
Psalms, I wonder if they'd take to them.
>Church, Boise, Idaho http://sermonaudio.com/reformationidaho
> GlennJ. Glenn Ferrell, Pastor, Sovereign Redeemer Presbyterian
>2007 14:25:12 +0000Subject: Re: [Covenanted Reformation] continuous
> To: covenantedreformationclub@...: ragingcalvinist@...: Fri, 2 Nov
>soundedlike I disagreed with historic covenanter principles, my name
> Just to be more clear (the last time I said something that
appearedin an e-publication amongst a list of people abandoning the
Covenantermovement!)... Writings from people like David Steele aren't
alwayshelpful for the current times, as much of what he wrote was
aimed atpeople who had always practiced such-and-such, and for good
reason,but now are beginning to abandon such-and-such, and for not
good reasons.In other words, a piece of polemic against those scheming
to abandon apractice like lining-out, is not the most helpful sort of
document forconvincing one why they should start lining-out if they
never heard ofit before.I'm for lining-out, as I think there are many
good reasons for it. But I wouldn't start my discussion of lining-out
by throwing DavidSteele at someone right off the bat!gmw (who lives in
Cleona now, EVEN CLOSER to you!)--- In
firstname.lastname@example.org, Jasper<jasperh98@> wrote:>>
Jerry, thank you. I appreciate your candid answer, which
hasimplications. Anyone else willing to be helpful?> > Jasper> > >
----- Original Message ----> From: Jerry <ragingcalvinist@>> To:
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2007 7:36:00 PM> Subject: Re: [Covenanted Reformation] continuous
singing> > Jasper,> > When I'm in public worship, or family worship
for that matter, weline out. The children are able to participate that
way, as is mywife who is often holding one or more children in her
lap, unable tohold a Psalter. > > When I sing all by my loneseome, I
don't read the line first unlessI'm trying to memorize it.> > I've not
always been impressed by ~all~ of the sentiments of olderRP's on this
subject -- understand, I'm not against the practice oflining-out. It's
just that some of the ways things have been statedcan make it sound
like a regulative principle thing or something. It's a charity thing
is what it is.> > Lining out helps the blind guy, the little kid, the
busy mom,participate in the singing.> > gmw.> > > Jasper wrote: >
Folks, would you please advise me on whether there is varying
orconsistent practice among Covenantors today regarding
"continuoussinging" (not lining out the psalms)? And, whether practice
changesbetween public and private worship. I do realize that
currentpractice is not a determinant factor on what the Scriptures
teach; butmy question is prompted by some writings of some older
Covenantors. Thanks for your help.> > Jasper> > Visit Your Group >
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Glenn Ferrell
>groups still line out their sung praise. They do not sing Psalms, . . .
> Interestingly, the Primitive (Calvinistic) Baptists and some other
. If one could introduce them to the Psalms, I wonder if they'd take to
--- In email@example.com, "gmw"
>Greetings Glen and Gerry,
> Writings from people like David Steele aren't always
> helpful for the current times . . ..
In the long run, I don't think the Primitive Baptists would take to the
psalms because it would clash too much with the anaBaptist
mindset/theology and a NT Book of Acts church. But maybe on the other
hand, they could put up with the inconsistency of it.
As for Steele, doesn't he make the jump from lining out being a mere
circumstance as it is in the Westminster Directory to actually being a
requirement in public worship, i.e. continuous singing is sin (even
though he didn't call a meeting of the Session of the RPA General
Meeting and make an official binding pronouncement on it)?