RE: [Covenanted Reformation] More writings from Stan B.
- Dear Willina;Thanks for commenting, I rejoice in how the Lord enables youto be such a sweet humble sister. May you always be blessedso.I do not think John expected anyone to know of his circumstances,and I know I certainly did not expect any of the members to come tomy aid, when I was aware that some of the Elders did not knowall the details of charges against a member... I was trying toconvey that in my last post, but realize that I was not clearenough on that point.It is a great weakness of not having the safety of godly numbersto decide matters.What comes to mind is the example of the composingof the Westminster Confessionof Faith; what was the number of ministers involved, was it 70 some?.....this important Church document was not decided by totwo or three men. And as in the documents Stan B. posted, all godlymembers are to know the details before an excommunication happens,and if I understand correctly all the membership plus the Elders areto be in agreement about the need for excommunication.I really felt heart sick yesterday after posting, I do not enjoy writingto expose the weaknesses or error of brethren, of men who oughtto have honor and respect shown for their office.Again, it is Spring time here at the Ranch, a little sorrel foal a longlegged colt was born this morning, that's 4 foals so far and many moreto come probably 8 more and we will be having some more calves too...there are 8 live calves, I've never in all my years of having to do withcattle seen such loses....we are at 6 deaths, (miserable weather, coyotes,hard births, and a mother laying on new calf's head) I'll sharethis story, on April 18th the day that Tammy Jean flew in from Albany;a black bull calf was born in the frozen sleet, he almost died at birth,I was making supper,watching out the kitchen window on our second storey;and saw his mother progressing well with hisbirth, I then saw that he was born with the membranes still over hishead, I ran for all I was worth, got there to pull them off and he waschoking on the fluids trapped around his head, I got him breathingpulled him to spot clear of snow and went back to finish supper,for I had get supper on the table and quickly do chores in only 1 1/2 hourbefore I needed to leave to drive the 2 1/2 hours to the Calgary Airport to retrieveTammy Jean....just before leaving I noted that the bull calf wasnot yet standing up, so I packed/dragged him to the big hay feedertubed him with warmed up Colostrum....told John that I hoped the calfstayed in the hay feeder for if he fell down in the big waterpuddle not far from the feeder, in his weakened state that hewould drown.....The roads were so bad with slushy snow, andvisibility was almost nil, I prayed that the Lord would send atruck that had better lights than John's GrandAm that I couldsafely follow, for there were so many vehicles in the ditchalong the highway as I drove......and the Lord did not just send a gooddriver in a truck but two, so I could follow and go around safelyall the traffic that was driving so slowly.By the time Tammy andI returned from the Airport the visibility was better and we couldstart sharing what the Lord had been doing in our lives...I'mso blessed to have children that I can converse with on such adeep level. On with the point of this story, as we arrived at theRanch I could see in the headlights that the Cow was laying closeto the hay feeder, it was already after 2:30am so I decided tonot go out until I had slept a few hours; to my disappointment at5:30am when I went to the feeder and got the cow up, here herbull calf and managed to move enough to get his nose outover the edge of the feeder, and his fat mother's tummy hadcovered his nose..the body was still slightly warm....but hewas dead.....three days later a little red heifer was born, I watchedas the mother who had laid on her calf went over smelled the newcalf, that was then about 4 hours old, it was like she seemed tobe thinking that she would take this one for her own, since her black boywas dead.... I phoned John and told him that I needed someone withSolomon's wisdom to discern what to do with two cows claiming the same calf as theirs.We did not do has Solomon did, offer to cut the calf in half, insteadwe have watched with amusement two black cows catering to a littlered calf whims, they follow the calf always hovering over her, andshe sucks milk from both cows, so I guess the three of them have cometo a happy resolvement. <GRIN>I hope you enjoyed that story; So, now that the weather is warmer I'll be busyeach day training young horses for market....got to have it together financiallyby the end of July to purchase next winter's hay for the Critters.I will be changing my settings for mail from Gerry's group, to none; so if anyonehas a comment or question to me, please write it now, for I'll probably not know ofit after May 6th.Blessings, and a big thank you to those of youwho have been praying,~Katrina~GALATIANS 6:9"AND LET US NOT BE WEARY IN WELL DOING: FOR IN DUE SEASON WESHALL REAP, IF WE FAINT NOT."NUMBERS 14:21"BUT AS TRULY AS I LIVE, ALL THE EARTH SHALL BE FILLED WITH THEGLORY OF THE LORD."
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Willena Flewelling
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Covenanted Reformation] More writings from Stan B.
>>> John Schumacher's case of telling one ElderLyndon Dohms on the
Phone that he thought the RPNA no longer had a Church Structure in 2005)
John was excommunicated without any personal contact from the other two
Elders Rev. Greg Price and Greg Barrow... I do not think any of the
Societies knew that John was facing excommunication for declaring that
he could no longer recognize the RPNA as a Church. I do not think any
of the members contacted John to try to persuade him to recognize the
former RPNA as a Church, to change his discison to attend a local CRC
church.....John had to drive almost 2 hours to attend the PRCE at
Edmonton, which he faithfully did for eight years. <<<
Considering this happened nearly two years ago before many of us had our
eyes opened... and that we were never told the real reason why John
left, but only that he had resigned his membership and refused to hear
the elders' counsel on it... why would we try to persuade him otherwise?
You are right. Even we in the Edmonton society did not know this. I
stand guilty of blindness to the elders' faults because of my implicit
faith in them. I am sorry now that I did not see the real state of
things a lot sooner, and that some, like you and John, had to stand very
much alone in your battle, with all of us thinking you were obstinately
in the wrong.