Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Re: Calvin's Preface to the Psalter (EP)
- Hi Nikolai,
Some quick comments below:
> gmw wrote:But the very quote you included in your response here says much more
> >>From Brian Schwertley's work on Psalmody:
> > "A careful examination of the Scripture passages which discuss the
> > songs used in worship and how worship songs were composed reveals that
> > God only authorizes and accepts divinely inspired songs for the praise
> > of Himself.
> All I can gather from Mr. Schwertley's quote is that the songs recorded
> in scripture are inspired.
than simply "songs recorded in Scripture are inspired." It's saying
that the songs which God provides and accepts of, to be used in worship,
are inspired. And so, Scripture only gives warrant for the use of
inspired songs in worship.
> Nobody disputes that or at least no BibleNo Bible believing Christian disputes what you said, but obviously not
> believing Christian does.
all Christians believe what Schwertley was actually saying -- that
Scripture only gives warrant for the use of divinely inspired songs in
> The contention is not about whether or not theYes, agreed, of course. I've surely not denied this.
> songs in the Bible are inspired, the contention is about can we sing
> uninspired songs in worship.
> I simply think insisting that Biblical songSomeone wishing to sing hymns in worship (hymns here meaning uninspired
> writers were inspired prophets will not impress someone wishing to sing
> hymns in worship.
songs as opposed to the inspired hymns commonly called the Psalms) will
not likely be impressed with anything we insist! Someone wishing to
worship God biblically, however, may very well be impressed with the
nature of the songs used in worship given by inspired prophets and
prophetesses. Now, no one is "simply" insisting that our worship songs
must be inspired without also having an eye to the Regulative Principle
of Worship. What I'm saying is this:
Given the Regulative Principle of Worship, we must have Scriptural
warrant for our acts of worship. Scripture gives warrant for the use of
inspired songs in worship, which songs were delivered by inspired men
and women. Scripture gives warrant for no other type of song.
Therefore, we only have warrant from Scripture to sing inspired songs
delivered by inspired people, in worship.
How we come to limit those songs to the 150 Psalms, is, of course,
another (yet related) issue.
> After all, we do listen to uninspired scriptureOf course, and both uninspired (strictly speaking) preaching and prayer
> exposition and prayer every Lord's day.
have Scriptural warrant.
> The only way, in myAnd I agree with this. If you are understanding anything I'm saying to
> opinion, to actually defeat those wishing to sing uninspired songs is by
> invoking the Regulative Principle, that is, *they* must, not us, to
> produce a scriptural warrant for their practice. This is when the two
> passages from Ephesians and Colossians are brought up but they are of no
> help for them of course.
disagree with your statement of yours, then either I'm being unclear, or
you are misunderstanding me, friend.
The issue is not that God commands us to /sing only divinely inspired
Psalms/, but that God /only commands us to sing divinely inspired
Psalms/. Given the Regulative Principle, this is enough to warrant
Psalmody, and nothing else.