Loading ...
Sorry, an error occurred while loading the content.

Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Re: Cardinal Newman; On the Revised Version of 1...

Expand Messages
  • Anglicananswer@aol.com
    Chris, Dr. Toon points out that it is difficult to seperate the High CHurchman and the Tractarian Romanists (at first) because they started out fighting
    Message 1 of 4 , Sep 22, 2004
           Dr. Toon points out that it is difficult to seperate the High CHurchman and the Tractarian Romanists (at first) because they started out fighting liberalism, etc.
      Then when the Tractarians moved in one direction the High Church Protestants felt betrayed at times. And the evangelical low churchman(and other Protestants) fought the Tractarians and the High Churchman reluctantly joined in though they didnt always like the approach.
      The High Church Anglicans that held to baptismal regeneration did not believe it in the Romanist sense. It was the general way God worked in the children of the covenant community. The Anglican usage of regeneration has at times been used in 2 senses. One is ecclesiastical-the entrance of the person into the visible sphere of grace where they are "set apart" or "sanctified" and made "Holy."
      But the terminology, when heard by Presbyterians or other evangelicals, can be misleading.
      It is ecclesiastical. Yes spiritual. But regeneration has been used in these 2 ways. Burgon and the other High Churchman would have been bound to the 39 Articles and would have stood for Reformation principles. Now some Covenenters believe that the Anglican distinctives are Romish. And that is a different debate. But the ecclesiastical language is different so it is often misunderstood.

      Pusey was an ally at first. But the direction he went in was not good.
      Also. Burgon was celibate but the 39 Articles are clear that Priests can marry. It may be expedient to be single for theministry...but Burgon could not have believed it was mandatory.
      Also, the prayer book has the  "declaration of absolution" in the corporate worship. It is where there is a general confession of sin and the minister stands and "declares" that they are forgiven in Jesus Christ. Again...the priest does not grant pardon..he declares it and it is in the context of corporare worship. This is often misunderstood but it is referred to as "comfortable words" in the Rubrics of the Prayer Books.
      As for private confession....I am not sure about this....but can say this. Confession was not for the granting of eternal life and forgiveness but the relationship of the saint to the church and the sacraments.

      Also....in the Tractarian debates...you have some persons writing together and working together...Pusey and others....but later one goes goofy...but it is assumed they are all together...but it is not always the case.

      The Anglican language is not Calvinist language so the ecclesiastical culture is often misunderstood. You will see elements of Reformed and Lutheran in Anglican liturgy....but the 39 Articles of Religion are Protestant and they and the doctrine that explains the liturgy.

      Not griping....just throwing it out there to think about.


    Your message has been successfully submitted and would be delivered to recipients shortly.