5267Re: American Presbyterianism
- Sep 2 2:33 PMHey Wayne,
What is an "Erastian" establishment of Presbyterianism?
Dan of Bethel Park
--- In covenantedreformationclub@y..., "Wayne Whitmer"
> I didn't realize until stumbling on this pagehttp://www.americanpresbyterianchurch.org/american_presbyterianism.htm
>America was called the Reformed Presbytery and had as it's essential
> That basically the first Presbyterian denomination to arrive in
>and Northern Ireland. They were Reformed Presbyterians. These people
> Reformed Presbytery:
> These were the first Covenanters to come to America from Scotland
had suffered greatly during the "killing times" under James II, in
defense of Presbyterianism. They held to the continuing obligations
of both the Scottish National Covenant of 1638 and the Solemn League
and Covenant of 1643. They had refused to accept the "revolution
settlement" in 1690 that established Presbyterianism in Scotland
after the Glorious Revolution of 1688. They felt that this settlement
established Presbyterianism not on a scriptural but on an Erastian
basis and that the covenants had been ignored.
>joined the Associate Presbytery and thus gave up the Covenanter
> As found when reading the above link, the Reformed Presbytery
Testimony of the National and SLC. And if you read down through this
laundry list it seems as if all American Presbyterian denominations
are an erosion of the establishmentarianism principle in favor of
supporting the constitution and government of the United States.
Their formation in many respects had much to do about politics.
>denomination/church to choose comes down to
> So with that all said, to me the choice of what Presbyterian
the "Establishmentarianism" principle and the perpetual obligation of
the National Covenant and the SLC. If the binding element of these
covenants can be proved to be in error for me as a US Citizen then I
would want to avoid the RPNA or any other church or denom which
unneccessarily binds my conscience with that which is no longer
binding. OTOH, if I come to embrace the National and SLC as binding
on me as a US Citizen and my posterity and that it should be a Term
of Communion, then I have no choice but to become a member of the
RPNA or another group which upholds these Covenants as Terms of
> It's as simple as that.
> Wayne Whitmer
> Pittsburgh, PA
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