15996Re: [Covenanted Reformation] Sure got quiet
- Aug 1, 2007Hi Deejay,
Hey, I'm writing an email to you on a group other than your own
group, for a change!
>A modern Covenanter reading a Puritan's book about the fear of the
> I am dipping in and out of (amongst other things) John Flavels'
> practical treatise on fear. That's very good too.
Lord. That just has to be an excellent thing! A Scottish friend of
mine wrote a catechism on the fear of the lord -- I may paste it in a
subsequent email if I can find it. (That is, if I get, hmm, 3 people
here saying they would like to see it!)
Hmm. Covenant. Fear of the Lord. This reminds me of Psalm 25:14.
Would that we all got really excited and awed by that Covenant.
Perhaps if we're not, it's because we haven't held it in view (in
front of the eye of faith) lately.
> I'm not sure how to say this well. But, like you mentioned yourraging
> Calvinist edge is dying off. I am NOT directing at you personallly,so
> don't misunderstand, you know I think you're one of the goodguys.but
> you're saying that just reminded me..but can't help but wonder ifthat
> happens to lots of folks, because they get caught up in life.I think what Jerry means is, not that he's had enough of standing up
for what's right, i.e., for Christ; but that he now doesn't wish so
much these days that he had a sword in his hand! There's nothing
wrong with being a man of peace, of course. I think Jerry might be
onto something here. He wants to come out of the battles of the Lord,
not only stronger, but with more troops by his side than what he went
I've been thinking too, about this idea that "getting caught up in
life" can be a distraction from the things of God. We (I'm not
getting at you) need to be careful about what we're saying here. Only
the things which we cannot do for God's glory are those which ought
not to be done; and those things which we can do for God's glory
(which includes so much of the stuff of "life"), ought to be done for
his glory. Put it like this, and nothing that's not wrong can be done
for God, and need not therefore be a distraction from God. Indeed,
the stuff of "life" if done for God's glory *is* the things of God.
That, I think, is what the "Protestant work ethic" is all about.
Trouble is, we have to overcome the way of thinking, which thinks
that when we get up from our knees after our morning devotions, we've
then exited the presence of God and moved to another compartment of
our life, in which we've got to get on with doing the mundane,
worldly stuff of "life" (whatever that might be for each of us --
"whether ye eat or drink, or whatsoever ye do").
Don't "get caught up in life" -- get "life" caught up in a godly
walk. Huh, you know what I mean, I hope! A Puritan could have put it
a lot better -- and probably did!
> They noScripture or
> longer have the time for private reading orthings of God or
> things of God in general. Life and its riches (or in some casescurses)
> over takes them so that standing up for truth or just putting Godfirst
> in the first fruits of thing.. . becomes less done.. as they maynot be
> practically able to give God they once used to, as the time theygave
> Him at one time has been squeezed out in favour of other things oftheir
> own lives or interests or pursuits. I read something the weekend,even,
> about how even our family should never come before giving God Hisdue..
> this may not be the kind of edifying topic you had in mind. But Ifyou
> look at the lives of the puritans, they often gave God so much interms
> of time, while meeting their familes needs, and their flocks, itwould
> often cost them health at times, because they were so sedentary, inI don't think the Puritans gave to their families, employment, those
> writing, reading and their own personal worshipping of God.
bits of their day which they didn't give to God. I think its more
like: they gave the whole to God, and put God first in each,
> Its the only blessing as I can see in the here and now of my own
> personal affliction. That when life is barren of the good things in
> life.. you will always have time still for God. Not because I'm
> better than busier folks, but just circumstnaces dictate it.If your idea is right, then perhaps we should each and all be
thinking, "Would that I had Deejay's illness, then I would not have
to work, or look after family, and I could devote my whole day to
God." I used to think like that. Except that I didn't want Deejay's
illness, I wanted a pastorate; then I wouldn't have to go out to
work! :o) But now, I'm sorry but I cannot agree with you, Deejay, on
this. No disrespect intended toward you at all.
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